I thought Jade Empire had some options near the end that felt much more evil. I played the closed fist path once and felt like I needed to shower after playing that path. Never felt worse for my party than after 0laying that game.
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Depends on combination, Closed fist Spirit monk with Open Palm Dawn star actually seems good, The Emperor do what is necesarry, While the Empress making sure he doesnt go mad with power and takes care of his people etc.
I wind that MC closed fist with Open Palm romance is actually Mordred style ending.
*Taking care of peoples needs if not wants"
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Well, Jade empire is really fun fun, as Closed fist as a open palm must be unplayable, Not that I tried. But is not star wars, hasnt that charming force persuade You could use to make people suicide and you can condemn entire planets. But why did you feel bad for being evil in a game? It is a feeling I canât understand, if it were real life I could understand it, I for instance couldnât see any expectacle were animals are harm, and even boxing feel disturbing, I canât stand violence . Probably that is why I love being evil in video games books ⌠To release stress in a controlled harmless place. The pixels donât suffer and are immortal so you could be all jerk you want. Most people release stress killing everything in Shooters games, but I canât play that brainless stuff more than five seconds straight, because there have no guion and no choices.
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âWill the reader be able to name the child?No. Sorry, but I love my characters too much to let people give them dumb names.â
The Cat/Dog is exception ? since you let us name it ?
@Illmaster Elaine will know if Guen and Lance are involved. Heâll actually tell Elaine before they get married, and Guen will then have the option to be angry with him for telling someone without asking her first. Elaine will initially just be terrified of Guen, and desperately hoping for Guenâs good will. Guen can treat her badly or be a friend to her. I donât know how much of that Iâll put in the FAQ, but I should probably put some of it. 
@bellamyb I hope I can make Avalon live up to everyoneâs expectations!
@hild ME TOO. After I finished the evil JE playthrough, I had to start over immediately with a good one because it all felt so wrong. (sorry, @poison_mara!) I will say, thought, that the JE closed fist path was interesting enough to keep my attention, unlike the renegade paths in ME 2 and 3, which I just gave up on partway through because they were boring to me. And my attempt to play an âevilâ DA Inquisitor mostly failed.
@CaesarCzech Yeah, Iâm not sure why, but Iâm okay with imagining and writing the pet even if I donât have a specific name for him in my mind. For some reason I canât do that with human characters. I do, however, like the idea that came up a while back of letting the reader input a silly term of endearment that Guen can call Arthur, so there may still be one other option for inputting something.
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@WulfyK I edited my post, and Fallen Guen is there now!
@poison_mara Iâve never actually seen Star Wars, which is weird because I really enjoy sci-fi movies. (Itâs probably because Star Wars came out before my time.) I think Iâll check it out, though.
As for KOTOR, if I can get it for free on Steam, Iâll definitely try it. (They do that sometimes with older games. Thatâs how my little brother got Fortresscraft.) But since it came out in 2003, and all the computers in my house are Windows 8, Iâm a little worried that Iâd (well, technically my parents-not yet financially independent 
) would pay for it and it wouldnât work on my computers.
I kind of agree with my Guen on that one, if you couldnât tell. Arthur meant well, but it was a bit of a âWhat The Hell, Hero?â moment for me. (Thatâs a trope for when a good guy does a morally ambiguous/immoral act.) That said, nobodyâs perfect and itâs a great way to show how a Guen might have her reasons for opposing some aspects of Arthurâs rule while still portraying Arthur as a generally likeable, sympathetic character.
âŚjust as long as they donât happen EVERY 5 MINUTES, like they did for Merlin in the later seasons of BBCâs Merlin. Sigh. He was my favorite character on the show, but by the final season I wanted to scream âThatâs it! Kill him, Morgana! KILL HIM!â
On a different topic, the FAQ looks really good.
Ooh, Morgana can turn evil. 
So, what would an Evil Morgana be like? And what could make her go that route?
All the questions in the FAQ about Mordredâs conception also made me realize that I have never posted all my Guenâs reactions to it. 
Iâll have to do that ASAP!
Well I donât kniw in steam but in origins was ultra cheap like four dollars or similar. But if you have an android phone or tablet for 8 dollars you have the new version For it fully with voices and all the stuff and is mods compatible. If you get somehow old game in shops or something there are patches to make win 8 compatible.
@jeantown No idea why is boring for you renegade in me2 and 3. Being renegade is not like being a evil sith, its mor3 like being a dirty harry style of badass hero. Ruthless not evil. I cure genofage and achieve peace between geths and quarians using pure renegade interrupts. But I found stupid paragon myself so It is matter of opinion like all in rpgs, in fact that is why I love rpgs for freedom. And being evil in Inquisition is rather impossible in my opinion, yes you could do ruthless and jerk stuff but all is presented to you like you still being the goodie goodie chosen by god. You never feel evil. I didnât play a evil playthrough yet, charming and machiavelian yes but pure evil , not sure it could be done
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@CaesarCzech Well, in physicall world you too can name a pet whatever you want, but naming your child something silly is illegal. But also sometimes people use pet names to humans who rae close with, so itâs ok, as long as itâs not official i gues 
@buggygirl11 I highly suggest www.gog.com for any older games. Although without any promotion right now KOTOR costs 9,49euro, which isnât that cheap. But their games are always drm free and compatible with newer platforms, so itâs good to check it from time to time (and they have a lot of older games).
@hild @poison_mara for me itâs hard to play bad characters i think because that i get to attached to fictional characters. They may be just a few lines of code and few pages of text, but if i roleplay myself as a player then i roleplay them as real, and itâs enough for me not wanting to hurt them
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For me it was two parts in particular. The end game options with Wild Flower. Siding with the toad demon just felt wrong on many levels and a horrible thing to put a little girl through. The second part is mentally forcing your party members to fight for a cause they no longer believed in. Those two options just felt wrong and I felt bad even choosing them in a game. I do agree though more evil choices are presented in KOTOR. i thought one of the most evil choices appear in Star Wars: The Old Republic. In the imperial agent story line you basically let millions of people die as collateral damage. @jeantown I agree completely I started down the renegade path but hated the pro human and pro smoking man parts of it so I gave up on that character, but I do think femshep made a great renegade, unlike maleshep, it was just the options presented to her. My Shep in those playthroughs were renegade with sparks of paragon when dealing with the smoking man because I always wanted to screw up his plans.
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@jeantown Hey, first of all I wanted to thank you for making so great and enjoyable game. To be honest I never really was interested in arthurian legend I only reads Bernard Cornwell books but now I think that maybe theyâre worth checking.
So, back to the game in my opinion it was great that Iâve got so many options to make personality of my Guen and I was even more impressed when I saw that itâs actually have impact on the story (in many games that doesnât really matter)
I also admire your skill at creating personalities for others main characters (arthur, lance, morgana). Every of them make me feel different:
Arthur mostly annoys me because his protectiveness over me and childish attitude
Lance is great guy easy-going, nice and friendly I could truly like him in real life
Morgana is someone with who as a character I can sympathize because of my situation (forced to marry a stranger)
Iâve got some questions for you if you donât mind:
-are we get a chance to influence a background of ouer MC?
-are you going to let us romance some secondary character (for a while, not for entire game)?
@poison_mara from what can I see I think that in witcher 3 we will be able to really influence personality of Geralt (protagonist), so maybe you can check that if you want but I agree with you that in most games no matter what we do we are never truly evil
ps english is not my native language so if you donât understand something let me know
What helps me in playing morally different char probably comes from the hours of playing The Sims. Where I now see the characters as action figures or dolls to play around. I really do not project myself in the chars I am playing (Jade Empire being the exception because of how abhorrent I saw the choice and still choose it). It is probably why I have never created myself in The Sims. No desire at all to go down that road.
@hild The most damaging game to child is thefore not First person shooter but the sims THE HORROR
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Needie, no problem I am Spanish myself.
And about Witcher Attention. Polemic opinion ahead, it is just my opinion donât hate me for it.
I cant play the Witcher without feeling sick, and angry with men. The way women is portrayed as sluts meat made directly to men use them as cards. I hate Gerald, he has all the defects I hate in humanity multiply for ten and worse I couldnât change a comma of him. The choices of first game were purely cosmetic in the second. So no way I just play the 3 even for a million of dollars.
But appart that personal feelings I admit is an interesting unique universe very well crafted, my problem is with Gerald of Rivia the most asshole men in game industry, Larry Lafter at least were a humorous parody notvlike this womanizer monster. The book is even worse I canât read more than 3 chapters of it. I am dying for play Cyberpunk 2077 by ciberred and the real table rpg guionist I even have my Poison Mara defined and prepared based in the rpg rules.
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@poison_mara No problem 
,personally i really enjoyed witcher games and books this is why I recommend them. In my opinion Geralt as well as people in the universe (women, men etc.) were as they were because of word in which they live. I am that sort of person who just accept that fact
For me it is great game because they donât show us good people and bad elves/draws (or vice versa) but they let us decide which side have more rights, more explanation for what they did or we can just stay away and donât get involved in confilct
And good news is that after premiere of Witcher 3 developers should give us more and more info about Cyberpunk 2077 
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@poison_mara @Needy I really donât want to go too much offtopic about Witcher, but while i agree that Geralt is almost comicaly âladies manâ and certainly itâs nothing wrong to hate him for that, i donât remember women portrayed as sluts in actuall gameplay (although i admit that i played Witcher 1 long time ago and may not remember a lot, and certainly the cards idea was rather distastefull) I think that in the books and in second game women are portrayed as strong and independant as men. Geraltâs girlfriend kicked his ass in multiple occasions and certainly didnât need him and was just stronger than him, being powerfull sorceress (thatâs why iâm nervous and excited how they portray her in the 3rd game, since she wasnt even mentioned in first 2).
Overall Witcher world is quite close in ruthlesness and maturity to game of thrones i think. But thatâs quite normal settings in polish fantasy. What polish authors consider normal fantasy would be often cathegorized as âdark fantasyâ by others, at least thatâs my impression.
Also as a curiosity that many people who havent red books did not know is that âThe Witcher Sagaâ (5 books with continuous story, not âWitcher storiesâ) is about only 1/3 about Geralt, and probably even more important character in there from whose adventures story is told is his foster daughter Ciri (a sorceress with witcherâs fight training)
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@Ponku I think that @poison_mara refers mostly to fact that almost every women in witcher 1 was ready to go with Geralt to bed without any questions and sex cards which player could get. @poison_mara please correct me if I assume wrong
And I agree that in second game and books women are much better portrayed
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@jeantown i got a pretty important question!
If Mordred and Guen team up and lose aginst Arthur what will happen? And more so if Mordred and Guen are involved togheter in âloveâ?xD
Will they possibly die? Will Arthur kill them both??
Thank you before hand <3
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I am a person very sensitive with this due personal reasons I suffered a rape attempt in my tens, and even the fact I were able to defend myself. Seen women in first game used as trophies in that fashion makes me boiling in anger. I played part of second because a friend insisted, and even if they down the things a lot, that make it bearable, the point of a rpg is introduced yourself in a character you could enjoy and change. I canât deal with neither. Choices for rp are barely existant, games tells how you feel and gives no control about Gerald emotions.
I tried to read the witcher saga first book when appeared here in Spain. And the feeling is worse than in game, I like the universe but my hatred for that stinky ape Gerald is making the saga unreadable, Or I would end like shouting universe and laughing book through a window. I am a very passionate person so that makes me act weird I admit. So no witcher for me , except I could poison him at the beginning and game let me play as Triss, I love triss.
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That certainly is a downside of witcher games, that you have predefined character with a set personality. I deffinetly agree with you on that you had no control of Geraltâs emotions. You canât effectively roleplay Geralt to be different, so if you canât find any comon things to roleplay as him, then the games are certainly not for you.
The Witcher world is so fulll of interesting characters that it would be great if they at least let players play at them, or have more open character creation like bioware games. But given limited resources cdprojekt had at the time of 1st game they decided to went that path with one predefined hero.
That is also another thing that make us let appreciate choice games more. In Guenevere even if the character is set, every other aspect of her is changeable by the player, every emotion and what person she is is for us to decide
Also if you loved Triss i think you would love Yennefer too Personally my favorite when i first red saga was Ciri.
And as a precaution to anyone ever interested in exploring Witcher world: Do not ever watch Witcher movie or tv series! Really. they are so bad that most people want to forget what they saw
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Who is Elaine? And, what is her role in the story? Iâm not very familiar with arthurian legend. So, Lance will have a child with her? And theyâll be married no matter what?