Guenevere (WIP)

Ohmygod, I’m not the only one with a Ditzy Guen! Yay! :smile_cat:

Edit: Did I say this before? This thread’s so long I’m losing track of what I have and haven’t said… :anguished:

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I’m starting to very much adore the idea of a master strategist Guen doing anything she can to prevent Mordred from controlling Britain.

Seeing as my ‘main’ Guen cares more about the well being of Britain as a whole, she’d probably go to a dark place if that’s what it took to beat him (At the end of the first half, Guen decided that Arthur and Morgana were much less of a priority than the kingdom itself, despite the fact that she is in love with one and is best friends with the other.).

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So if Guen has a baby… And that baby is very aggravating and causing much distress… Couldn’t Guen, if she were a light magic user, just use magic to calm the thing down? After the incident with the sheeps it only seems logical that she’d come to that conclusion :smiley:

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I think you mentioned earlier that you could have a polysexual relationship with arthur and lance, forgive me if i’m wrong, but does that mean that arthur would know guen was involved with lance and not so much as be okay with but accept it? really love the game btw definitely my favourite and so many options!! i’m pretty sure my friends are sick of me now bc they have no idea what i’m talking about but sometimes i just have to talk through my options and then cry bc what if i made the wrong one?? mini existential crisis aside, i love your game :smile:

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@jeantown While I was re-playing the game, I just noticed that Canon Guen (where I try to play as close to the actual legends as possible) doesn’t get the option to turn Meligaunt and Grimald against each other, even though her Leadership is in the high 20’s/low 30’s and it’s her primary stat.

I had that option with Ruthless Guen, who also has Leadership as her primary stat, but not with this Guen. I was just wondering if this was a bug or if this was an option for evil/ruthless Guens only.

Thanks for answering! :smile:

edit: Oh, crud. I just read your blog post. I am so sorry about your grandfather. Please ignore this tactless question about Guenevere until a better time.

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@Mirabella You’re definitely not the only one. Once the second half of part 2 is up, I may need some suggestions for Ditzy Guen, since at the moment it’s almost impossible for Guen to make it through any of the big branches without being at least somewhat sensible somewhere. :smile:

@LanaRose I do hope I can enable a storyline where Guen can become rather dark herself in her attempts to stop Mordred, maybe to the point of alienating others if she takes it too far.

@KitsuneGoto Yes! (at least, to some extent.) LM!Guen may have some definite parenting advantages.

@Tanniv If I can set everything up the way I’d like, an A/G/L poly relationship could take a few different forms, depending on how and when Guen presents it to Arthur. He might know about her and Lance and be unhappy about it, or he might know and be okay with it, or the three of them could end up in a mutual sexual relationship, but that will depend on some particular choices (though achieving the ot3 is no longer going to be quite as ethically questionable as I had originally planned). Anyway, thank you for all the kind words! :smile:

@buggygirl11 Yep, that’s deliberate. If Guen has never, or barely ever, lied to anyone, that option just doesn’t occur to her because her nature isn’t deceitful enough. I want to do more of that sort of thing if I can – offer particular options that are available only if Guen has established the relevant personality for them.

And thank you for the sympathies! (: I’m with my family now, and we’re all doing okay. I don’t think I’m going to have much Guenevere-writing to show for April, but it’s nice to be able to poke my head in here and think about the game for a little while. Please don’t feel bad about continuing to talk or asking questions! It’s totally fine. :slight_smile:

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Well the Guen I’ve made wouldn’t have a hard time turning enemies against each other. She’s nice and honest to her friends, polite the people she doesn’t know, and completely ruthless to her enemies.
Is there a way for the game to acknowledge that Guen treats different people differently?

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@Interestedparty The idea is that Guen absolutely can be nice to her friends and ruthless to her enemies, but if she isn’t an experienced liar, she’s just not going to think of that particular form of ruthlessness.

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@Jeantown

At least it was as good as such things can be, but . . .

I don’t know what to say beyond that. May he rest in peace, and may the good memories buoy you and yours up.

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@jeantown Oh, well. As disappointing as the lack of Guenevere progress is, your family is obviously more important.

But since it’s okay to keep commenting/asking questions…

You mentioned that after the second half of Book II is released, you’ll still need to work on the options for Ditzy Guens. (BTW, I’d be happy to help if you need it.)

Will we (well, those of us with Ditzy Guens) have to wait until Book III comes out for the update?

Because I know these things can take a year or more to write, and Ditzy Guen just doesn’t seem like herself if she’s not being, well…a ditz. :smile:

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First, I’m sorry to hear about your loss.

With permission from the great @jeantown, I had a friend do a commission from my personal favorite scene in Book 2. Obviously there were a couple freedoms taken, but I love how it turned out.
http://rizala.deviantart.com/art/Commission-On-the-Lake-526634351#comments

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@jeantown I’m terribly sorry for your loss. Fortunately, he lived a happy life and died without regrets. Wherever he is now, he is probably as happy as he was in life, if not more so. I hope the best for you and your family.

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@jeantown im sorry for your loss. :sob: And i hope that you and youre family are alright.

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@Elfwine @buggygirl11 @Lys @Mirabella @GloriaRose Thanks for the sympathies. My family and I are enjoying our time together and our memories.

@buggygirl11 I’m pretty sure that after I release the rest of 2, I’m going to have to spend at least a month or two just fixing bugs and making little revisions, which could very well include adding some more dialogue and internal-thought options for different Guen personalities. (Right now I’m working so hard just to get the story and main plot choices set up that I haven’t been able to add much personality flavor yet.) So… I sincerely hope you won’t have to wait a year!

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@jeantown Yay! I was just wondering since you’re not updating anything (well, releasing the updates you’ve made) in the first half of Book II until you release the second half.

Now that I think about it, Book II IS technically still a beta…I guess it would be different once the whole book is out. :blush: Sorry, I wasn’t around (even in lurking form) when you first released Book I!

@jeantown I’m very sorry for your loss. :cry: May your grandfather rest in peace. :angel:

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@buggygirl11 Well, everything’s barely beta at this point… part 1 will get a huge overhaul eventually, once I’ve written more of the series. I’m an obsessive perfectionist. :smile:

@WulfyK thank you!

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If Arthur does know Guen’s child could be Lancelot’s, but claims it’s his anyways, how will Lancelot feel about this? Will being in a polysexual relationship affect his reaction, and if so, how?

Also, on one hand I’m really interested in meeting Mordred, but on the other I’m distraught about how he’s getting there. I completely understand that it’s necessary for the story, I just saw your comment about how after Mordred Morgana will not want any more children, and for some reason it made me think about what’s going to happen in a more concrete fashion. My heart broke for her, and for Arthur. Them being forced to have sex against their will is such a traumatic scenario for two characters that I love so much. ALL I WANT TO DO IS PROTECT THEM AND NEVER LET ANYONE HURT MY FAMILY AGAIN :sob: :sob: :sob:

Another thought, I know Guen can influence how Morgana and Arthur’s relationship after the fact, and I assume to some extent she can influence how Lance sees it, but how WILL Lancelot react to his best friend and foster sister being forced into this? Will he take sides? Will he become depressed or want revenge?

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Guess who is back?! haha okay I have missed a lot and barely just caught up but @jeantown I hope you’re doing alright!

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Some Gueneveres will of course take the unwilling incest between Arthur and Morgana badly. Mine is not one of them, if you know anything about her. While she is not incapable of platonic affection and does show some such softness, in privacy only, towards people like her father, Arthur, Morgana, and perhaps eventually Lancelot once he can move on from his feelings towards her, she benefits from a cool head and a mostly dry-eyed, sober, unsentimental personality. Being both aromantic and asexual, having no illusions about the nature of politics or that marrying for love is simply not done for royals and nobles, she knows well enough how it works to react in her usual prim, collected, and reserved way.

Once Guenevere finds out, she will be most immediately focused on trying to puzzle out who the mastermind behind this plot was, trying to figure out their scheme and how to stop it. She will hardly be upset for herself over it. If someone broached the subject and asked if she wanted to talk about it to feel better, she would find the idea quaint, because she truly is not upset in the first place. She would be focused on damage control, how to reconcile Arthur and Morgana, trying to prevent word from getting out and causing a massive scandal, and what exactly to do about any potential begotten child, especially if she knows the prophecy about Mordered bringing disaster to Camelot.

As for the child, she will leave the rearing to the nurses, nannies, and governesses, remaining a distant and stoic figure in the child’s life, very much an Edwardian upper class parent, only getting involved latter on for the child’s education and especially teaching the child self-discipline. For my Guenevere, it is not about having and raising a child, which she has no particular inclination towards, but about doing her duty as queen and wife to produce and train a suitable heir to the throne.

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