So I’m curious, if one had a child with Lance, could (with or without Arthur’s help, depending on whether one did or didn’t have sexual relations) one hide the baby’s paternity?
For example: Guen had a baby with Lance, and never slept with Arthur. Could she ask for Arthur’s help in passing the baby off as his?
Or if she slept with them both, could she straight up lie to Arthur and the kingdom?
@Kinrussh I’m not planning on multigenerational incest… once is enough. 
But there may be some interesting drama if/when a child of Guen’s learns about Mordred’s parentage.
@LanaRose Absolutely. If Guen had sex with Arthur within the appropriate time frame, and he doesn’t know she’s also sleeping with Lance, he’ll just assume the child is his unless she tells him otherwise. If Arthur knows she’s sleeping with Lance and not with him, he’ll still act as if the child is his, for a long list of reasons. And if she’s in a polysexual realtionship with both of them, the three of them will just be able to tell who the baby’s father is when it’s born, but Arthur will say it’s his regardless of its biological father. So the baby will ostensibly be raised as Arthur and Guen’s no matter what
Actually, for a cold-hearted rational Guen marriyng her daughter to Mordred to prevent a civil war could sound like a good idea even if Arthur is the father. Unless you’re planning to make Athur’s child always male, Guen should have the option to try it. Of course I don’t expect the daughter to be cooperative on that.
And if Lance is the father the bloodline is saved, AND no incest!
It’s a win-win
Haha omg i have been away from this thread for a while and when i get back i see @WulfyK comment, hehe not that i find your comment bad or anything! But since i already drew the line at Guen and Mordred, i would feel quiet disturbed too marry off my “daughter” to Mordreds or have that option since tecnically “she is his would be younger sister” (0_0) annnnd i find that quiet a line too cross If it became an option. So i Will just stick to GuenXMordred, i guess…and i know that makes me ironic but each for their own! 
This is simply an amazing game! I have played through it so many times and yet I keep finding new things. And oh my gosh, I feel terrible some play throughs. 
(Arthur, the floor, really?) I love all the characters and interactions and you manage to make even small choices really matter. It’s simply fantastic work!
Right now I am on my phone else I would share my Guens too, but I having nothing but praises for you! On the topic of baby Guens, I think my “main” Guen will be a metagame decision. She doesn’t want children but is extremely dutiful and feels she should have an heir. If she had a girl she would keep trying until she had a boy, but since we only get one child that couldn’t work. So if it turns out to be a girl main Guen will have just have decided that having a child was just something she would not do, even for the kingdom. Metagame choice Guen.
Overall though I can’t wait to see what happens! I would write so much more but my phone is a pain to type on. 
Alright, so its been a little since Ive been here. (Lost my Iphone and then replaced it with a Android, found out I could play PSP games and Visual novels like katawa shoujo, never going back to Iphone) lmao hows stuff going here?
Incest Incest for everyone Slanesh
@jeantown You said that Mordred will have different feelings for Guen’s child depending on who the biological father is.
Will these feelings be merely an extension of his feelings for their father (ex: he hates Lancelot the most, so Lance’s child would automatically be an enemy) or will one of Guen’s possible children have a personality more compatible with Mordred’s than the other?
Anything else I might say about possibilities for Guen’s child and Mordred run the risk of giving away more information than I want to give about the child, so I’m just going to let everyone speculate. 
@fskfx Thank you! I’m so glad you’re enjoying it enough to replay! 
One thing I will say is that Guen will not be under particular pressure to have a male heir. While the guenverse is a very gendered world, it’s not nearly as sexist as real history. As long as she appears to be ensuring the continuation of the Pendragon bloodline, people won’t complain. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the rest of the game when it’s available – I’ll do my best to make the wait worthwhile!
@Pqfire09 Welcome back and congrats on the new phone! As @CaesarCzech, it seems to be mostly incest lately.
@buggygirl11 Actually, Mordred’s attitude toward Guen’s child won’t necessarily be an extension of his feelings toward biodad. It will have more to do with the child’s personality. One of them will indeed be more compatible with Mordred than the other, depending to some extent on Guen’s influence.
Thank you for replying! 
( Sorry for all the emotes in advance, they’re too hard to resist. 
) But no, seriously, thank you! This is one of my favorite games to date. I have an ample amount of compliments.
As far as the sexism goes, that’s very interesting! I hadn’t even thought of the sexism motivations of having a male heir. “Main” Guen would be motivated on having a male child more because of Mordred. She would be extra cautious because even though he is illegitimate, she would want to be on the safe side. Thus having a son so he could have claim to King to secure the position. Just in case. As well she would prefer in the future to marry in a Queen rather than a King because she is just a tad paranoid. 
But that is just this one Guen. If she doesn’t have a child (metagame ftw), which would also work for her because she doesn’t want one, it will be very interesting to see how that unfolds. 
(<- Omg, it’s a cat. I feel like I’m going to be abusing the emote system.)
Also, I love how I can create such deep characters with different motivations and personalities in your story. Like having the ability to create reasoning and goals for each Guen is just inspiring. And seeing other people’s Guens is also amazing. Again, your work is supreme. 
(Mkay, I’m going to stop rambling on now. 
← Plus one more emote. )
Ooh, that sounds really interesting! 
A more Evil/Ruthless Guen would of course groom her progeny to follow in her unscrupulous footsteps, but I would also be interested in seeing how a good Guen would deal with an evil child. So many possibilities, and no real “right” answer…
Jeantown, thank you again for working so hard and answering all of our silly questions!
Odd thought though- Technically, wouldn’t Morgana be able to use her magic to abort Mordred while he’s in utero? Why wouldn’t she, other than being under control of sorts? dum dum dummmmmm
I’m so happy you’re actually letting Guen have kids! When I first saw this game, I was reminded very much of Mists of Avalon but with a more bad-ass Guen. Now I’m just really glad Guen could have children.
In the case Guen has a child with Lance, would she be able to pass the baby off as Arthurs and get Lance to shut up about it- or tell him it’s Arthurs? In fact, if Guen is sexually active with both men, would she be able to tell whose child it is? (If so, would it be to her requiring specific magic?)
Thank you so much, love this story! ^^
I can use Mordred and kill him after? All power should be mine! 
I’m excited & anxious about the rest of the chapters.
My canon Guen is a very flirtatious,adventurous & fun-loving, young woman who wanted to explore and experience the world before settling down (if ever).
But, now she’s thrown into being a wife! Then, she decides maybe she’ll have a blast being the queen.
She has a immediate attraction to lance and finds arthur endearingly adorable.
But,also finds morgana intriguing & intelligent.
So, obviously has started a romance with ALL the characters which has made her very confused.
Hey @jeantown, I was wondering whether you would be willing to talk a bit (or if you already talked about it, link to it) about your generel writing process - NOT where you are in the story but how you approached the story itself. Did you start by fleshing out the NPCs or Guen or did you directly start with outlining the story and looked where it took the characters? Do you write one “decision tree” down and then go back to the first branch and write the next branch or do you write various branches simultaneously? I’d love to hear more about your writing approach.
(Also, can I say that this ongoing discussions make me soooo loking forward to the rest of the book(s). Plus, friends and I were so impressed by Guenevere that we are going to talk about it next month in a public Hangout and compare it to other adaptations of the Arthur story. We’re a nerd club kind of thingy (Consulting Nerd Girls), monthly discussing books, movies etc. with a special consideration of representation of women in stories. Unfortunately, the hangout will be in German (as we’re German), so you’ll probably won’t be able to follow, but I still wanted you to know about it. )
I’m guessing that having a child with Morgana is out of the question? 
@EmbricCrowspear Oh my gods, a baby with Morgana would be amazing, but didn’t Morgana say there’s no way to magically conceive a child?
@jeantown If Guen is romancing Morgana, but has to have the heir, how would Mogana treat the child? Like an niece/nephew, or like one of her own?
@fskfx hee, glad you’re enjoying the emoji. The cat ones seem to be rather popular. My personal favorite is “non-potable water.” 
Because sometimes that’s just the only image that can adequately express my emotions. Anyway, thanks again for all the lovely compliments! They definitely help me stay motivated.
@buggygirl11 That’s the plan! So many possible Guen/progeny personality combinations. I can’t wait.
@Mim You’re welcome! The questions truly are helpful.
That will indeed come up – Guen and Morgana will be able to talk about it, at least. As for passing Lance’s child off as Arthur’s, the answer is yes; in fact, Guen’s child will be raised as hers and Arthur’s no matter what, and Arthur may or may not be aware if it’s not his. Guen herself will know for sure no matter what, and so will Lancelot, who will absolutely shut up about it, considering it would be treason and both he and Guen would be in massive trouble if anyone found out.
@Abyss That’s the plan! All power shall indeed be yours… if I can write it the way I want!
@SaucyMinx Glad to hear you’re looking forward to more (so am I)! I’ll be curious to see what happens with your Guen when the three mains start to figure out that she… um… has so much love to give.
@Elveny First off, I’m so honored to hear about the Hangout; wow!!! I wish my German was better. Maybe you can fill me in on the key points after it happens? Your group sounds wonderful. Thank you for telling me about it!
As for my writing process, I really should make a whole blog post about that! Thanks for the idea. When I started writing Guenevere, I was just trying out ChoiceScript to see what would happen; I’m not entirely sure why I decided to play around with an Arthurian story, except that I had always felt that Guinevere deserved more sympathetic treatment than she tends to get. I suppose I “discovered” my versions of Morgana, Lancelot, and Arthur in the scenes in which they first appear; they just showed up and were themselves. I don’t think I had much of a plan for a long-term plot at that point; I was just experimenting with ChoiceScript.
But once I had those three characters, I felt very drawn to tell their story in this medium. I remember getting out a notebook and hand-writing a bunch of plot notes about all the things that could happen if I broke the long-term story up into installments that covered the main events of Guinevere’s life. I started adding more and more detail to the outline, but I think the story very much grew out of the characters rather than the other way around.
My writing process is something of a dance between planning and discovery. I’m definitely a planning sort of person; I’m an INTJ and I like detailed outlines. But I deliberately leave gaps in the outlines, where I know what needs to happen, but I have no idea how it will happen until I get there. The great thing about interactive fiction is that I can give a bunch of different options for the “how.”
I do write pretty much in order, unless I’m feeling especially inspired to write something ahead (which happened with the part where Guen can attack Lancelot after he kisses her; I had that written long before I got there). When I write the choice-trees I usually set up the label for each branch, make a couple of notes for what happens in each, figure out how/when/if the branches will reconverge, and then write each branch in whatever order appeals to me at the time – so I make a framework and then fill in the blanks.
The plotting for Guenevere basically comes down to a series of increasingly complex tasks with different possible outcomes and different resources available for achieving a given outcome. Many outcomes provide resources that can be useful in accomplishing a task later on, so it’s sort of an interlocking chain. I do depend heavily on binary variables, which are a lot more work than just having stats, but that’s how I want to tell my story.
Anyway, I may collect some of the above into a more coherent blog post. Thanks again!
@EmbricCrowspear Sadly, (as @hishman13 says,) Guen and Morgana can’t have a biological child together. I’m letting this be a story in which gender matters (somewhat relevant blog post here). In the future I hope to write other stories where gender doesn’t impose reproductive (or any other) restrictions, but given Guenevere’s historically-inspired setting and the long-standing themes and tensions of Arthurian legend, I decided to let this be a story where biological reproduction is limited by gender, since that’s been part of the human condition for most of history. Anyway, a romanced Morgana will be very loving toward Guen’s child, but she’ll probably think of it more like a niece/nephew. (though honestly I won’t know for sure until I get there.)
Ugh, I think I’m getting incoherent now. (: Apologies for any rambling or lack of clarity; it’s been a weird, sleep-deprived week.