My guen is a guen that just clicks on a random button and sees what happens ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Hmm, makes me think. Will your Guen be influenced a little bit by Arthur as she is wanting to influence him? Like, she is hardening him, but she would also “soften” a (very little) bit around him? After all spending so many years together they could influence each other, maybe unconsciously. Or do you plan poison queen to be very firm and resentfull of any signs of softness from Arthur?
Still with family, so I’m staying out of any Nature of Evil discussions, but another few things I can answer in the brief time I have:
@Elfwine Yeah, with something that serious I hate giving the reader options that can’t really change anything BUT… readers have asked before if there will be a May Day Massacre. My Arthur would obviously never do something like that (even if “hardened”), but I feel like I should give Guen the opportunity to at least try to have baby Mordred killed. It won’t work, of course, so I’d need to figure out a way to give the choice some other consequences.
@CaesarCzech Those would certainly be some significant but not unjustified character developments for both Arthur and Mordred. I’ll have to wait and see exactly how much personality change I’m able to account for, so honestly I’m not sure yet; only that I do plan to try. As for weird body magic… well… there will be some weird magic.
@poison_mara Well, Mordred already believes everyone else is evil (except maybe Morgana), so he won’t need any convincing on that count. But he and Guen can maybe bond over how hypocritical everyone else is.
@WulfyK 1. Yes; he’ll know immediately. 2a. At first he’ll try to be a role model to Mordred the way he is for Gawain and Gareth (which we’ll see more of in parts 3 and 4), but Mordred will reject him very quickly. 2b. Mordred will utterly and passionately hate Lancelot’s guts (reasons will be given) 3. Guen can maybe try to get them to tone down possible violence toward each other, and she may be able to influence Lancelot’s feelings toward Mordred to some extent, but Mordred will always hate Lancelot no matter what – more, even, than he hates Arthur.
@Logan_Chessar As @poison_mara says, Mordred is a major, fixed event – he’s the main villain of the whole series, and traditionally of Arthurian lit. So no, it won’t be possible to prevent his existence. But, as @Mirabella says, Arthur absolutely will not intend to cheat on Guen, and he’s going to be horrified when it happens. She can be forgiving or not.
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Just a fixed point in time and space 
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So guen can be close to mordrid
@Logan_Chessar Yes; Guen can even have a shocking romance with Mordred (though she can also be close to him without romance being part of it; I imagine there will be lots of different ways to interpret possible relationships between the two of them, given all the circumstances).
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@WulfyK Not within the storyline of the game, but there won’t be anything to preclude it if Guen and Mordred are together as a couple at the end. Of course, she’ll be old for having children (45), but plenty of women do have children at that age.
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Cool that sounds interesting
I think i found a little bug. After the battle in part 1, when you say that you dont agree with Arthur’s vission, he responds:
“That’s what I was trying to say before. It’s all right. I want you to be honest with me. But it’s important for you to know that I’m never, ever going to give up on my vision.” no matter what happens."
One quotation mark too many.
How would morded feel about the age gap? (when hes 16 she’ll be like 40 or so?
So i;ve been trying to accept @poison_mara challenge from some time ago and try some sort of “evil” playthrough. And this is what i came up with. This Guen is not exactly evil i think, but i never played an evil character and that was best i could do 
So, this Guen is mostly sword fighter, with a bit of dark magic. When she was forced to marry Arthur, she was outraged, to be taken away from her life, to marry some stranger, without complete regard for her own opinion. She hates Arthur for that and also dislikes Lancelot and Morgana from the start, just because they are his friends, but knowing that Morgana went through the same thing makes Guen give her another chance.
She ofcourse refuses to sleep with Arthur, and almost throw something at him, when he visits her talking about need of an heir. And she regards Lancelot as just a typical arrogant knight, noone special, but dislike him because he is a friend of her enforced husband.
At first all she wanted to do was to run away from camelot, maybe even to become some wandering outlaw, to really have freedom and control over her own life and stopped being forced to so many things. She didn’t care much about Britain, it survived without her so far, it could survive longer. And here even when she keep saying something she still was often disregarded by Arthur. But things started changing slowly, especially after dream visits from some stranger (i finally saw the Mordred dream scenes!) An idea was starting to grow in her mind to maybe make use of being a queen. To have so many people on her command, maybe she actually could do what she wanted and not care about people trying to stop her, if not for Arthur again (“really, a forced husband that represent that i dont have freedom on something like that, and he still makes my life harder to do what i want”). I think she may be falling for Mordred later, especially if he keep approaching her with that attitude of understanding that she deserve better.
For this Guen battle o Badon Hill was a very important moment of her life.
She was a good swordfighter, but never actually take part in battle herself. She decided “what the hell” and went with sword on the frontlines. She liked the experience. It made her feel alive and free more than anything in her life lately. To be able to focus on fighting, feel the rush of adrenaline and just dont care about anything else. When she was attacked before firing rocket, first thing she did was to fight of, almost forgetting about signal. After it she saw that many soldiers died because of that. Soldiers that were yesterday fighting for her, with her, on the lines. She was shocked to see something like this for the first time in her life. She decided that they were her band, and she will make them strong, so they wont die anymore. And she blames Arthur that he send her to fire signal and more soldiers died. After all if she wasn’t there, Hrothulf would attack her somewhere else and someone could have fire rocket undisturbed.
After her initiall bad mood over marriage passed (although she still can feel only disgust about it when it is mentioned or with Arthur around) she started understaning Morgana, mostly because she sounds like she is understaning Guen best, and very slowly she is letting the possibility of being friends, or atleast not enemies, with her.
She killed Hrothulf and told about it to Arthur. She did it, because she believes that was the best thing to do, but also as a revenge for attacking her and her soldiers.
So that’s it so far i just finsihed part 1 with this playthrough. Rest maybe later, i need to think about few things how to play it. I hope my character does not having to many inconsistences. I keep wanting to choose the “good” answers in many times (like someone mentioned being mean to Arthur often feels like kicking a puppy ) And i know she isn’t really that evil or certainly not even machiavellan. I imagine her as more of a strong, ruthless for her enemies, a bit of selfish, not really caring about the whole country, but thinking that stronger country means she will be stronger, have more power to deicde what she wants and protect people she likes (like her soldires or Maris and Bretta).
From a more gameplay/technicall point i want to say that i had mostly no troubles playing that character. When doing a not all goody playthrough i noticed how there are more options of “good” answers over “bad” ones (and i think it’s a good think, as majority of people i think would play positive characters) Arthur seemd much more serious, almost a different person, so now i see how already player can influence him. Here he was mostly broody or dissapinted all the time. Like had some sort of darker aura over him. But in my main playthrough he was happy and cheerfull and determined. Mordred’s tempting fitted my character incredibly well for what i imagined so you hit bullseye with that too @jeantown
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Is there going to be a chance with guen having children
Okay, in absence of a better name, I’m calling the Guen I’m playing Guardian Guen. Since I haven’t played any alternate paths yet, the following is just “Guen” at the moment. Noting the points that struck me as especially important:
Guen spent as much time as she could studying leadership with her father, and married Arthur feeling dutiful but also hopeful that he would be a good husband - one can always hope, right?
She and Arthur talked before having sex.
She took part in the planning with Arthur as much as possible, and talked with Morgana.
She fired the rocket, and using her leadership skills defeated Hrothulf and her other attackers.
She let him live because it was the right thing to do*.
She wants to be a good friend to Morgana, and she thinks she might be falling in love with Arthur (whose vision - optimistic as it may be - she supports wholeheartedly).
And if she has anything to say about it, she will make Britain a more peaceful place (by working with said vision).
Chapter 2 thoughts to come.
- “and practical, too.”, but the “right thing to do” is the reason selected in game.
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I never thought about that. Hmm, interesting… Maybe a little all depends how hardened Arthur ends. If he is not hard enough she still hate his ideas so would totally against any influence from him, but if he becomes more machiavelian she could respect him and end being influenced by him and being more soft in her ruthless.
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So I’ve been lurking for a long time and finally decided to contribute to the discussion.
First I really, really, really love this game. I mean wow. The amount of time, effort and dedication you are putting into this amazes me and I find myself constantly checking back just for the discussion.
I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve played this and I’ve tried so many different Guen’s, though my main is definitely a Guen who’s ambitious and merely using both Arthur and Lancelot for her own purposes while genuinely being friends with Morgana. My second favourite Guen to play is practically the complete opposite- Someone who loves Arthur and wants to work towards his vision although less idealistic than him.
I know it’ll be a while but I can’t wait for Mordred- Just a quick, probably insignificant question but if Guen had the dreams about Mordred would she be able to recognise him as a child? I doubt it would effect the plot much if at all but I’m just curious.
Anyway, once again, love this so much. Definitely my favourite choice script game by far. Thank you so much for doing this.
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I would really love an option where after guen finds out that morganna is pregnant by arthur she and lance are like whatever and decide to run off into the woods to have their own baby😄
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While we’re on the subject of Mordred and the drama he’ll create…
Mordred’s conception drama will cause a MASSIVE plot twist in Goodie-Goodie Guen’s life. I always planned for Goodie-Goodie Guen to live happily ever after with Arthur (skipping off into the sunset with rainbows and unicorns and the like). But the more I think about it, the more I’m tempted to take an entirely different path with her.
Goodie-Goodie Guen has always been a bit of a Self Insert, but I try to make sure I don’t make the classic mistake of glossing over my flaws and turning her into a Mary Sue. And one of my worst shortcomings is that I am a TERRIBLE communicator. When I’m angry or upset or hurt about something, I don’t calmly express my feelings and try to work through it. Instead, I’ll bottle it up and try to ignore it, hoping it goes away, all the while acting like everything’s fine. And for minor things, it usually does. But for major issues…not so much.
So during the aftermath of Mordred’s conception, Goodie-Goodie Guen will try to bury all of her resentment, depression, anger, and pain and hide it rather than dealing with it. Slowly but surely, her anger and bitterness will consume her until she’s a shell of her former self. Over the years, she’ll lose all faith in humanity until she’s secretly almost as cynical as Mordred himself.
Of course, she’ll never express any of this to Arthur/Lancelot/Morgana, and pretend to be her old, idealistic, Arthur-loving self. But in the privacy of her own thoughts, she’ll be secretly plotting revenge on Arthur for his betrayal. Throughout the books, she’ll further her descent into villainy, and hopefully find ways to use her Light Magic (which she originally learned to heal people) for evil ends. By the final book, she’ll probably be just as much of a two-faced manipulator as Ruthless Guen. She might actually fall for Mordred in the end.
The crazy thing is, if Goodie-Goodie Guen were just a little LESS nice, and just yelled at Arthur and let her anger out in a strongly-worded discussion/argument, all of this could be avoided. But she’s not, so instead she’s going to go on a much darker path.
This piece of character development took me by such surprise that I couldn’t keep it to myself, so sorry about the long post.
Will I be able to do this-have my Guen’s personality change over time and undergo character development?
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@buggygirl11 That strikes me as less “too nice to just shout it out” and more “what does being ‘nice’ have to do with it?”.
I’m not trying to tell you how to play her - just my reaction to this as character development/change.
People who are kind and empathetic may habitually focus on others’ emotional well-being before their own. This can easily be taken too far, to the point where they resist anything that might “rock the boat,” even by, for instance, keeping quiet about their own emotional distress. This is obviously unhealthy. Good communication is important both for relationships of all sorts and also for your own well-being.