# From Ashes We Rise \[FAWR / WIP\] Upd. 30. Oct

**URL:** <https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887>\
**Category:** Works In Progress\
**Tags:** heroic-fantasy, gender-choice, super-powers\
**Created:** [December 26, 2015, 11:49am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887 "2015-12-26T11:49:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Scorpio00](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/scorpio00/32/44194_2.png) [@Scorpio00](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Scorpio00)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 3:50am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3837 "2016-04-22T03:50:11Z")

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I just thought of this. What if you play as a hero and some kid starts asking to be _your_ sidekick? 😲

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**Author:** ![RedRoses](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/redroses/32/269027_2.png) [@RedRoses](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/RedRoses)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 4:28am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3838 "2016-04-22T04:28:39Z")

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Can you imagine the difficult, heartbreaking flashback that would happen before you could say yes or no?

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**Author:** ![Wraith](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/wraith/32/241294_2.png) [@Wraith](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Wraith)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 8:53am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3839 "2016-04-22T08:53:12Z")

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Wow… 73 Votes up until now,  
 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/original/2X/1/19ce8100c96c3ec7ea23530d9cadad7cbe4cecf9.png)

Then I guess Troy will stay like he is for now. Thanks for everyone for sharing their opinion.

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There were a lot of different opinions regarding this matter, many which I thought rather amusing while others were really hitting the nail on the head, if I may say so. In the end, it’s probably the wisest idea to let him stay how he is instead of making his role a notch higher. While I had some ideas for him as being a friend of the family, I guess now, after reading so many comments, there would be some conflicts later on where I probably would have no idea how to get around them, at least at the given time.  
So, thanks again to anyone who contributed on this matter and for your input! It surely was helpful!

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> [@Sovereign2Lilith](#):
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> That would make Troy the biggest creeper if he was part of MC’s family or knew MC before.

Well… it depends I would guess. Nero knows the MC as well, does it make him a creeper? Ok, we haven’t seen him yet, though I think it wouldn’t make either Nero nor Troy a creeper just because being in any way related (the RO would just be crossed out) or if they knew the MC beforehand. It all depends on the later choices the both of them would make and what they would say.

> [@WIre\_Ryse](#):
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> (…) This is another great WIP I hope to see more from. And even though it’s probably not my place, I would rate this game a solid 9 out of 10. (…)

Thank you very much! It makes me happy that you think like this and I appreciate the comment.  
While I am grinning madly behind the screen right now, I am happy that people like what I write and tell me so. I mostly wrote the game just for fun and to get off some steam in the evening, though now it became a big project for me up until today, and I really love to continue it in my free time.

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**Author:** ![Chillytwirls](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Chillytwirls](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Chillytwirls)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 10:28am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3840 "2016-04-22T10:28:28Z")

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This is one of the WIPs I’m most excited about right now, honestly. The plot is just so intriguing, and I really like were it’s going! Keep up the good work! (And I’m super excited to see the hero-path unfold, yum)

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**Author:** ![P\_Tigras](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/p_tigras/32/626_2.png) [@P\_Tigras](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/P_Tigras)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3841 "2016-04-22T13:09:20Z")

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> [@Wraith](#):
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> What do you guys want to see the most for the villain or hero path? What are your thoughts on that point?  
> To which alignment would your MC tend to, and why?

I very strongly empathize with the following 2 remarks:

> [@Sovereign2Lilith](#):
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> I feel like Crow never did anything wrong. He had no superpowers and he wasn’t even in the building when MC died. I wonder what the MC logically thought Crow could do save her. He may have tried to help, but he didn’t have the super human strength to lift a building off MC. It would have made sense to wear a bullet proof best when every one has guns, but no one in this universe thinks about that.

> [@Shoelip](#):
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> Well yeah, Crow didn’t actually do anything wrong. If you’re playing a villain who blames crow you’re pretty much playing a delusional person.

I’m with @Sovereign2Lilith and @Shoelip on this. And thus…

For the villain path, I’d like to see a good rationale for being a villain, not just a “I’m a self-absorbed teen who likes to blame others for my own mistakes” line of cheesy reasoning.

For both the hero and villain paths, I’m looking forward to having the ability to open up to Crow early on, since she’s the one person who has historically given a damn about the MC. I never really bought into the whole, “we must hide who we are from our old mentor” routine.

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**Author:** ![Sammysam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/sammysam/32/25199_2.png) [@Sammysam](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Sammysam)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3842 "2016-04-22T15:07:57Z")

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> [@Wraith](#):
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> Then I guess Troy will stay like he is for now.

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/original/2X/b/bd3c7f81d385dfa00182a6f30a0d8c5f59987674.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/original/2X/b/b9492696d645216b9ead89f11e2e07856413c3e5.gif)

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**Author:** ![Taylor\_Enean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/taylor_enean/32/8534_2.png) [@Taylor\_Enean](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Taylor_Enean)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3843 "2016-04-22T16:19:45Z")

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> [@Wraith](#):
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> Then I guess Troy will stay like he is for now.

I missed the voting, but I’d like to say, to your statement - you mean perfect? 😉

I think it is fine that he will be as he is, just as we weren’t a friend of the family until we became part of it. 😊

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**Author:** ![Eiwynn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/eiwynn/32/221334_2.png) [@Eiwynn](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Eiwynn)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3844 "2016-04-22T16:21:12Z")

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> [@Taylor\_Enean](#):
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> we weren’t a friend of the family until we became part of it.

When I read this, I read it in Charlie Manson’s voice, and I was scared. 😉

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**Author:** ![Taylor\_Enean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/taylor_enean/32/8534_2.png) [@Taylor\_Enean](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Taylor_Enean)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3845 "2016-04-22T16:23:00Z")

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> [@Zolataya](#):
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> When I read this, I read it in Charlie Manson’s voice, and I was scared. 😉

😑

Don’t make me roll up a newspaper. 😜

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**Author:** ![Lithophene](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/lithophene/32/112249_2.png) [@Lithophene](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Lithophene)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3846 "2016-04-22T16:25:57Z")

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I’m going to break my silence here and ask that I be allowed to plant a big wet smooch on Specter in later chapters. pls. I need it in my soul. 😚

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**Author:** ![Urban](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Urban](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Urban)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3847 "2016-04-22T16:36:24Z")

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If your character is male I think you will be disappointed.

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**Author:** ![Lithophene](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/lithophene/32/112249_2.png) [@Lithophene](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Lithophene)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3848 "2016-04-22T16:38:56Z")

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Don’t do that to me, man. You’re killin’ me! First Victor from Unnatural and now Specter here? 😭😭😭

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**Author:** ![RedRoses](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/redroses/32/269027_2.png) [@RedRoses](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/RedRoses)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3849 "2016-04-22T16:42:24Z")

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Are Spector and Stray the only ones with gender requirements?

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**Author:** ![Urban](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Urban](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Urban)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3850 "2016-04-22T16:45:46Z")

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For what I saw in the code, yes.

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**Author:** ![Wraith](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/wraith/32/241294_2.png) [@Wraith](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Wraith)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3851 "2016-04-22T16:48:46Z")

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Right now, as already said, Specter and Stray are the only ones with a restriction, though I am thinking about lifting it for Specter perhaps. Not sure yet, though it might happen.

@Urban  
…How did you manage to see the code?  
I didn’t post it anywhere, and I have no idea how it would even be possible to see it unless you have the game/demo saved somewhere…

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**Author:** ![Urban](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Urban](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Urban)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3852 "2016-04-22T16:53:59Z")

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**Author:** ![Lithophene](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/lithophene/32/112249_2.png) [@Lithophene](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Lithophene)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3853 "2016-04-22T16:56:19Z")

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You can mark me down as one of the guys that’ll resort to begging for that to be lifted from Specter. 😢 I don’t know if he’s mute or not, but I just… really want to hold the guy. Or rather my dude MC wants to hold him. Both of us? Both. I’m a sucker for characters who can communicate non-verbally. Actions speak louder than words after all. 😚

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**Author:** ![COGZealot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/cogzealot/32/87653_2.png) [@COGZealot](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/COGZealot)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3854 "2016-04-22T18:37:23Z")

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Personally, I’d like to see more then one female romance, Vine struck me as… Hard to deal with. 😉

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**Author:** ![Iggles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/iggles/32/88647_2.png) [@Iggles](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Iggles)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3855 "2016-04-22T18:44:35Z")

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Well… I’d guess Wraith could be another. Though I don’t think that drops the “hard to deal with” qualifier that you already have for Vine. I know Glamour isn’t, so only other possiblility off the top of my head is the hinted at Technomancer female anti-hero that has been mentioned in passing by @Nathan_Faxon who has then been quickly shushed up by @Wraith any time so much as a word is spoken of it.

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**Author:** ![HuntedSnake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/huntedsnake/32/12523_2.png) [@HuntedSnake](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/HuntedSnake)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/from-ashes-we-rise-fawr-wip-upd-30-oct/13887/3856 "2016-04-22T21:07:37Z")

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From my point of view i really like how Vine behave, it’s just that your MC have to get to know her more to deal with her the right way ^^

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