# Fallen Hero: Retribution release thread! (Book Two) (Spoilers Inside!)

**URL:** <https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849>\
**Category:** Hosted Games\
**Created:** [February 2, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849 "2023-02-02T18:43:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Heartbreak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/heartbreak/32/198120_2.png) [@Heartbreak](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Heartbreak)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3774 "2023-05-30T20:32:30Z")

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I tried this but I couldn’t get anything new text wise. Also whats the achievements name?

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**Author:** ![Heartbreak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/heartbreak/32/198120_2.png) [@Heartbreak](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Heartbreak)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3775 "2023-05-30T21:25:07Z")

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I tried this but nothing happened? Whats the achievements name? My FH R is the Steam version, was there an update or something? Man I feel like I’m missing out

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**Author:** ![fsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fsix](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/fsix)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3776 "2023-05-30T21:30:46Z")

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The new update is still being worked on until am not mistaken, so i’d guess it’s probably going to be at least a few weeks before it’s done.

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**Author:** ![Heartbreak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/heartbreak/32/198120_2.png) [@Heartbreak](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Heartbreak)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3777 "2023-05-30T21:39:37Z")

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> [@Shenice\_L](#):
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> Lol so I decided to replay AGAIN and experiment a little bit this time. I wanted to see if anything happened if we basically made our puppet our twin and to my surprise; It’s an achievement!! I love that!! Writers who take the time to add small details as such, always have my extra appreciation honestly.
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> Name(s)- Silo and Silo  
> Both Latino, with Blue eyes, short curly brown hair and short Stature.

Then how come some players get an achievement for making the puppet and Sidestep the same? So confused right now…I tried this and nothing happened…

> [@fsix](#):
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> It’s not just achievement; it gets mentioned a number of times in the game, and confuses the hell out of some people (mostly Ortega)

Also are both games getting an update? What I did was make a new character in the second game and copied the puppet’s name to the MC’s name and the exact appearance to make a “clone” and when I did this nothing happened

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**Author:** ![Nazroth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/nazroth/32/53373_2.png) [@Nazroth](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Nazroth)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3778 "2023-05-30T22:03:24Z")

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The achievement is called “Mirror Images” from the first game, you need to make them have the same skin colour, eye colour, hair colour and style, and the same gender.

Also the name of Sidestep and the puppet does not need to be the same to get the achievement.

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**Author:** ![Shenice\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@Shenice\_L](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Shenice_L)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3779 "2023-05-30T22:08:07Z")

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I realized yesterday after playing once more, that they have to be the same gender as well; not just alike in appearance. Luckily the name doesn’t have to be the same at all, which was a relief because I was so confused trying to decipher when they were talking about me vs my second lol.

Also, just repeating what the person before said; it’s called mirror images.

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**Author:** ![fsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fsix](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/fsix)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3780 "2023-05-30T22:11:48Z")

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> [@Heartbreak](#):
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> Then how come some players get an achievement for making the puppet and Sidestep the same? So confused right now…I tried this and nothing happened…

Ah, sorry, i got confused by the posts above and didn’t notice you’re referring to the mirror image thing. It’s like Nazroth says, the race, gender, eye color and hair color, texture and style all have to match between Sidestep and the puppet:

```choicescript
*if (((puppet_gender) = (gender)) and ((puppet_eyes) = (eyes)))
  *if (((puppet_race) = (race)) and ((puppet_haircolor) = (haircolor)))
    *if (((puppet_hairstyle) = (hairstyle)) and ((puppet_hairtexture) = (hairtexture)))
      Maybe it's telling that your puppet looks like a more attractive version of yourself, but who could blame you for trying to live out your dreams to be a normal ${gender}?
      *set mirror_image true

```

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**Author:** ![Heartbreak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/heartbreak/32/198120_2.png) [@Heartbreak](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Heartbreak)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3781 "2023-05-30T22:28:54Z")

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Ah ok so its from the first game, that means I gotta import a save from game one?

I did this exactly, made the puppet a copy of Sidestep from gender to name to race and height but didn’t get anything, I did however start from Retribution and made a new character and not import a save from Rebirth

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**Author:** ![Nazroth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/nazroth/32/53373_2.png) [@Nazroth](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Nazroth)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3782 "2023-05-30T22:37:14Z")

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Yeah the achievement is from Rebirth but I don’t believe you need to import for it to be acknowledged, in Retribution you still get the reactions to it depending on your choices I think, I almost never play with puppet as a clone so I’m not entirely sure how many there are or how to trigger them.

> [@fsix](#):
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> The mirror\_image flag which controls extra text is set on import into Retribution

I stand corrected then.

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**Author:** ![fsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fsix](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/fsix)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3783 "2023-05-30T22:40:52Z")

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> [@Heartbreak](#):
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> Ah ok so its from the first game, that means I gotta import a save from game one?

The achievement is granted when you finish setting up your puppet’s appearance in Rebirth. The mirror\_image flag which controls extra text is set on import into Retribution, but character appearances need to match for this to happen.

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**Author:** ![Heartbreak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/heartbreak/32/198120_2.png) [@Heartbreak](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Heartbreak)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3784 "2023-05-30T22:49:36Z")

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Thanks for the information, do you guys know anything else that is Rebirth save import exclusive that you can’t do if starting a new character in Retribution just like this?

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**Author:** ![Heartbreak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/heartbreak/32/198120_2.png) [@Heartbreak](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Heartbreak)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 11:32pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3785 "2023-05-30T23:32:49Z")

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> [@State of the Companies: 2023](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/state-of-the-companies-2023/136802/9):
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> Zombie Exodus: Safe Haven  
> Zombie Exodus  
> Wayhaven Chronicles: Book One  
> Wayhaven Chronicles: Book Two  
> Samurai of Hyuga  
> The Lost Heir: The Fall of Daria  
> War for the West  
> Samurai of Hyuga: Book Two  
> Fallen Hero: Rebirth  
> Tin Star  
> Community College Hero: Trial by Fire  
> Fallen Hero: Retribution

I just saw this and I gotta admit the fact that Rebirth lost to those other games shocked me, as for Retri being in the top 15 within 2 months I’m not surprised your work has been nothing but phenomenal, no other author comes close 😃

Shocking enough the Infinity series everyones talking about never made it in the list. Also strange TWC 3 hasn’t made it.

Overall keep up the fantastic work

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**Author:** ![fsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fsix](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/fsix)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3787 "2023-05-31T15:26:03Z")

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Regarding limited performance of the _Infinity_ series, its commercial appeal is severely limited by gender-fixed MC. A lot of people simply refuse to pick up a game that won’t accommodate their preference.

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**Author:** ![anon67111821](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anon67111821](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/anon67111821)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3788 "2023-05-31T16:25:18Z")

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> [@fsix](#):
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> A lot of people simply refuse to pick up a game that won’t accommodate their preference.

I agree, I always do that.

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**Author:** ![Thecriticofinnocence](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/thecriticofinnocence/32/168343_2.png) [@Thecriticofinnocence](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Thecriticofinnocence)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 7:51am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3789 "2023-06-03T07:51:55Z")

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I gotta say, they made spitting out the truth quite painful here. What a beautiful mess this is, the bonds with the Rangers shattered like that. And Mortun actually coming in the clutch to get me out there. And…Ace possibly not as dead as expected. Oh the wait for furthering the tragedy will be painful indeed, but a good pain.

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**Author:** ![Bad\_Idea\_Generator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Bad\_Idea\_Generator](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Bad_Idea_Generator)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3790 "2023-06-05T17:06:33Z")

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Question, there a few points where I saw greyed out options that seem to imply that it’s possible for Ortega to learn that you’re a villain in the previous game, if that is in fact the case, what choices would I need to make in the previous game to get that outcome? I’d love to do another playthrough and see those version of events.

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**Author:** ![Raptorofwar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/raptorofwar/32/177583_2.png) [@Raptorofwar](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Raptorofwar)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3792 "2023-06-05T21:27:03Z")

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I don’t think it’s possible for Ortega to learn outright, merely for them to suspect. Can you point out which choices you mean?

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**Author:** ![Thecriticofinnocence](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/thecriticofinnocence/32/168343_2.png) [@Thecriticofinnocence](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Thecriticofinnocence)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 9:43pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3793 "2023-06-05T21:43:13Z")

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Yea, she can get an inkling of suspicion of it in the first game if you get more personal with your speech after you fight her, but only in this game can you blow it wide open.

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**Author:** ![Bad\_Idea\_Generator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Bad\_Idea\_Generator](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Bad_Idea_Generator)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 10:38pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3794 "2023-06-05T22:38:31Z")

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Never mind, I went back to get the line in question and realized I was misreading it

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**Author:** ![Heartbreak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/heartbreak/32/198120_2.png) [@Heartbreak](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Heartbreak)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 2:14pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/fallen-hero-retribution-release-thread-book-two-spoilers-inside/131849/3795 "2023-06-06T14:14:45Z")

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This story is the GOAT. I will say that my biggest issue with FH 1 and 2 is the pacing of the story being kind of slow and not enough action meanwhile the games take 5 years to release lol

Also in the stories you barely get injured and if you do there aren’t a lot of consequences, I always win the fights and afterwards Sidestep just rests up and they will do ok. I did like the part where you can get a scar from the first game and you can get a new scar at the end of the 2nd game though but more action and injuries would be good.

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