Fallen Hero: Rebirth is released - discussion thread!



Well, the mere fact that this could become a possibility will be amazing, and I would be thrilled to see the differences unfold.

Oh dear, imagine if the setting for the puppet were for the Rangers instead:
One could make Lady A even keener on arguing and an aggressive MC opposite her.
Herald who (suddenly) tries to be all professional and failing miserably.

OR Steel, who tries to be more caring, and not exactly succeeding, but the MC seeing that he tries. It would make my telepath’s heart beat faster for sure.
Kind of like the Beast (from Belle and the Beast) when he tries to feed the birds during Winter and at first the birds are scared, but when Belle shows him how to do it the birds are suddenly all over him?


Changed ‘caring’ to jovial’ for the puppet after a suggestion. I think it works a lot better.


I just wish she doesn’t tear off my limbs immediately :scream: I did make Argent “like” my MC when i was in her mind, although i am not sure whether i should do that… it was the only way to make Argent “like” us (to improve the relationship stat)… that’s why i mention Argent is a more intriguing romance interest than Ortega , next we need to argue whether manipulating Argent to love us is even consider love at all ? :thinking: and…oh, please take your time to respond our previous discussion , there is no rush at all :smile:

Hmmm… what if i just want to pretend i comply to Ortega’s suggestion , i go to see a psychologist but i know perfectly i am fine and know what i am doing … i just want Ortega to think i am having depression problem :grin:

Hey …this suddenly comes up to me, let say if and only if Ortega catch us and want to deliver us to justice, what if my MC cries in front of her and beg her to release me ? Do you think there should be a stat check to determine whether she likes us enough to let us go : :slight_smile:

What if the person who catch us is Lady Argent? Do you think crying will do any good to soften her ? :hugs:
Oh…don’t worry about Steel, surely i won’t cry to him :roll_eyes:


I’m still for the cold hearted: “Either release me or have at least the courage to end it once and for all”

…I think my MC only would cry if Ortega just couldn’t do that, for one because yeah, desperation and they don’t want back to the farm and two, because Ortega why can’t you just give up on the MC you idiot? You caring just makes everything worse.

lol, Argent when having to decide to either kill or arrest MC, yeaaaah not that difficult decision, I never thought Lady A is somebody who likes to make prisoners…or she feels quite sadistic and arrests them especially because MC would prefer death…Okay she is a scary person, could maybe somebody else catch MC?

I think depending on how you treated him Herald probably is the easiest to confuse no matter if it’s crying or asking for death over arrest…what means he could easely just also get punchend in the face so that MC can escape… (I’m sorry my trust in his abilities is not that big) or MC could kidnap him…

Yeah Steel is weird. I mean he probably would feel pretty validated in his impression of MC, but depending on how far of a friendship he and MC build, he may be more keen to listen to them. He seemed pretty intersted to know more about MC’s reason for the secrecy… So idk tears may could help? I doubt Steel got as much oppertunity to see MC vulnerable as Ortega did… so eh yeah I think it would go against his expectations a bit…


Are these going to be a front, or our real personalities? Will the people around us see through us easier if we have the same personality?

What would ‘coping’ be like?


The way you want to implement these variables sounds good to me. I liked the idea of that in DA2, though I disliked that we had to play in a certain way to get the response we wanted. You’ve talked about this topic enough that I would be surprised if I ended up not liking it, even if I wouldn’t miss anything if you decided against them. I already see the MC as “my” character and am fine with the differences in the storyline we have so far.

… Though for a moment I had to think of Highlands, Deep Waters and its sanity stat. Imagine if we had to handle something like this for MC. Come to think of it, maybe it’s less “sanity” but “paranoia”.


That’s my intention.


We’ve haven’t actually manipulated Lady Argent into having romantic feeling or even love for us. All we’ve done is make her see us in friendly way, and as someone with psychic abilities who isn’t a threat. Romancing her is something we’re probably gonna have to do the old fashioned way.


Hmm what about something like Conflicted for the MC (I think my MC is mostly like that lol).
He’s usually okay and coping but can get depressed sometimes, but the main thing is that he is very conflicted between the 3 identities (the puppet, the MC and the villain)


Puppet The Charming, MC the Depressed, Villain the Ruthless


A disasters person - the game


By toggle do you mean you can switch between these at will depending on the mood and situation of your MC like the swear, or do you only choose one and stick with it until offered a new choice, similar to Children of the Gods?

Either way it sounds like a good idea, especially with how divergent motivations and actions are. I lean towards super tragic angsty reluctant characters while I’ve seen plenty of others have MC’s take the villain thing and run with it the whole nine yards. I doubt they would react the same to any given situation and this seems like a good way allow that


I see my MC as a depressed individual…for he knows he is going down the wrong path…yet he can’t even stop himself…I see the puppet as what the MC was like pre-heartbreak incident…and the villain…the path the MC is going down…a path he is so desperately fighting against…


Now, that’s a capital idea @Sammysam , though if anybody of the rangers is going to either “kill” or kill my mc’s villain persona he could certainly be persuaded to allow Herald the honours.


I’d rather do the killing.


I want my MC to find clever ways to solve and evade conflicts. Beats going into ranty evil Edgelord mode. For me, anyway.
I actually love when MCs have the option to go “fuck all of this, I’m out” and just leave.


I’m roleplaying my MC as just having absolutely abysmal self-esteem thanks to The Farm’s mental conditioning and Ortega showing interest in him like he’s some kind of actual person while being taught his entire life he’s a disposable tool has utterly twisted how they see themselves. Long story short, he’s now a megalomaniac obsessed with being everything Ortega is against and committing absolutely heinous acts of mass destruction and destroy everyone else they care about so they’ll inevitably kill him and prove him right.

“Ha, I knew you didn’t really care about me! I only had to smash every single one of your buttons with a hammer to get you to kill me! Pfft!”

He’s slightly based on The Joker, if Batman ever told The Joker he cares about him before his chemical bath and for whatever reason The Joker absolutely refuses to believe it.


My MC has a sort of similar mindset but has swung just about as far from megalomaniac as you get. She kinda clings to Ortega even though she knows it’s a bad idea. She also accidentally slips into a lot of old habits around him, so if she were to be able to kill him it would be to remove him as an obstacle. Not that she’d entertain the thought long, I doubt she’d be able to cut ties with basically the only person she’s ever trusted so permanently. Really she just wants him to leave her alone and even thats complicated.

Meanwhile I, as a player, am silently cheering Ortega on. Hopefully they don’t drop the “go see therapist” thing either. MC sorely needs it and I doubt mine will actually follow through on that promise. I’m also pretty sure Ortega already suspects something if MC acts too familiar during the fight.
The characters in this game are wonderfully real and human and I love all the drama that comes with it. I’m gunning for as happy an ending as I can get (God knows MC deserves it, all the shit they go through) but we’ll see how that goes.


so i thought to take her in and well …at least i can keep an eye on her while paying her for what she deserve

In some way, we would just be kind of adopting the sidekick. I would like to think that the telepath would make certain that they learn how to take care of themselves whilst being in their employment… Yes, I approve. I would do it.
Though, we still have to see if it comes to that. The sidekick is an adult after all.

Indeed, Lady A is worth saving. I truly am intrigued by her character. Though still have to get the scene where she is drowning. Have not chosen the extra power for telepathy for on the suit yet.

Honestly, I feel quite uncomfortable thinking that my MC is in the body of someone else, especially knowing that there is still a soul/mind/consciousness lurking inside that vessel… Which can actually start talking if it gets too much individuality and has some strange power with lucky numbers during the gambling scene!..
And yet, I find the puppet and the Doctor such a cute couple. Though in reality it is the MC through the body of someone else… Yes, I feel shivers run down my spine.

Though if the sidekick is Harley then who is their Joker? Not the telepath, since they are not the cause of their miserable life. Would be fun if there would come a baddie for that aspect of Rosie’s/Boris’ life, wouldn’t it?
I did actually imagine a cape like the one from Batman for my MC…
Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na… BATMAN!


The personality balance proposal sounds great. Given your track record, I’m confident you could do it justice.