Crème de la Crème Discussion and Romance Guide (Spoilers Within)

Auguste didn’t do anything and shouldn’t be facing any consequences either way.

People could say the same about the MC and how they didn’t notice anything and now a bunch if peoples families like Blaises lost a bunch of money.

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That’s if anyone even hires them, their mother pretty much destroyed all reputation they had, and I’m guessing most people are gonna want to stay away from that.

We don’t really know that, there’s also nothing saying they suspected anything. There’s also the fact they go to another school entirely, so they’re probably not wondering or thinking to deep about whats going on at the other school.

That’s pretty much what I’ve been saying. The MC has better chance to fix their families reputation and for people to forgive/ignore their parents crimes. Auguste pretty much barely has one, they are now the child of a killer and slaver, with possibly barely any money to support themselves. Again most people wouldn’t even want to hire them and deal with the drama that’ll come with them.

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That isn’t even true in modern society, it would be even less so in one approximating the 1920’s.
Everything I know about the period makes me inclined to think it would still be pretty easy for them to get into a relatively cushy job, no matter what his mother does or does not get convicted of.
Anyway both my mc and Blaise are still going to have to inevitably suffer through another round of minor re-victimisation in front of a hostile crowd as witnesses at that damned trial and there is still a chance that despite everything Reynaldt will get off pretty lightly in a justice system biased towards the upper classes if her lawyers succeed in pinning most of it on the corrupt, lower (middle) class forewoman. :unamused:

Anyway, even in the worst case scenario for Auguste even in the slower media landscape of a 1920’s esque setting the news cycle will move on and even the trial will fade, if the firms won’t hire him immediately they certainly will after at most a couple of years and he probably has at least some funds his mother’s creditors can’t touch, same as the mc that will allow him to last that long in at worst relatively modest but by no means poor circumstances till then.

This is all relying entirely on supposition. You don’t know Auguste is going to land on his feet. You don’t know that the world won’t pass the sins of the mother onto him. The lack of pity is built off of a what-if that you have no way of knowing will come to pass. You’ve stated the MC’s parents’ crimes were lesser than Auguste’s, which is true, and even they were ostracized, with the MC not far behind. That in mind, the logic goes to follow that, with Auguste’s mother’s crimes being far more severe, and directly affecting the children of the elite, Auguste is unlikely to land on his feet. Let alone secure a cushy, if unglamours, career.

You’ve said that, at best, Auguste was willfully blind about what his mother was doing. But he was at an entirely different boarding school, and it seems that Renaldt conducted most of her ill work at the school she ran, due to the nature of what she was doing; smuggling Gallantin children to mines. If that’s the case, it isn’t at all a stretch to think that August had no idea what she was doing.

Beyond all this, he’s still a child who just effectively lost his mother. That on its own, imo, is worth some sympathy.

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I could really use some help, I’ve tried so hard to get engaged with Max but it never works! I always encourage him to be more steady and I had a relationship of 91 with him and it still didn’t work, does anyone know how to?

Have a look at the first post of this thread, @schmee16 - Hannah’s updated with a comprehensive guide. :smile:

If you haven’t tried this already, you’ll also have more chances to encourage steadiness if you’re with the Starlings.

I’ve looked but I can’t seem to get it :confused:

I’ve tried that, I was wondering if you maybe have a step by step guide or something?

Well I like to think it is at least well-reasoned supposition. But if our dear author wants weigh in she can always do so, of course.

By the way let me tell you how I think Renaldt's trial will go:

Since Hannah hasn’t told us anything specifically about the legal system I’m loosely basing this of off a mixture of the British one and what I know from legal history about the late Austro-Hungarian one.

First off her lawyers are likely going to succeed pinning the (second degree) murder of Gaspard entirely on the corrupt forewoman who was her partner as only Blaise and some lowly miners were witnesses to that as my mc and mr. Blanchard weren’t yet there. So, bam, poor Auguste won’t legally be the child of a killer.
The slavery and racketeering charges are ones she won’t really be able to weasel her way out of, but dishearteningly I think even that will be mostly due to the fact she kidnapped and indentured my mc after he was already officially engaged to the prince, which means the judges cannot afford to let her off lightly there without risking the kind of diplomatic incident where the Westerlin Royal family would have to publicly apologise to the Zaledo royals, now including my mc. No matter what compromat she may still have on some judges and politicians they probably won’t dare risk that. And Renaldt probably won’t risk her child getting on the shit list of the Westerlin royals as that really would mean Auguste would be royally fucked and won’t really have a chance to rebuilt his reputation or land on his feet.
Now that is for my main mc, assuming the Prince and the Zaledo royal family continue to back him. For other mc’s this part may also go considerably worse and I can see the charges either getting reduced to “involuntary deprivation of liberty” or the judges taking advantage of the fact that while slavery is illegal it was in almost all European justice systems a crime hardly anyone was ever convicted of and it therefore did not carry an enumerated (minimum) punishment, which means this is the time to use what blackmail and compromat she still has left to get the Court to exercise its “judicial discretion” to reduce the sentence to a slap on the wrist “punishment”.
The only thing she won’t really be able to weasel out of is the (inheritance) fraud and even there it is likely that part of the blame and shame will be shifted (rightfully) to Gaspard’s uncle, Blaise’s aunt and (wrongfully) the mc’s parents.

Either way the mc, Blaise and mr. Blanchard/miss Dalca are going to have to go through a round of re-victimisation as public witnesses in front of a hostile Court. So, yes, he won’t have much sympathy for “poor” Auguste. Neither will Blaise, I would imagine.

So, yes, this means that for any mc who did not get officially engaged to Rosario, like my main one, her crimes are mostly going to get reduced to the same sort of thing the mc’s parents did, essentially fraud.

Auguste will also always have one thing the mc never had to help in rebuilding his fortune, if perhaps not quite his reputation, he remains a titled aristocrat and in a few years, after the news cycle has well and truly moved on, this alone makes him a desirable catch to wealthy industrialists who want their kids to “marry up” and get a title. And if he does not want to do that it is extremely likely he can still get into the sort of relatively cushy upper middle class job I mentioned earlier, by then at least.

Sure, just one final note, having finally played my way to an Auguste ending, Auguste it seems will have far more support than the mc ever had as Freddie, Hartmann and his Aunt, Sidonie seem to be his true friends, no matter what, and won’t ever drop him. Needless to say Hartmann and his Aunt are wealthy enough that he probably has to give up very little in financial terms and could even continue a life of luxury. :unamused:
Fortunately in Auguste’s case we do get the only sort of angry, stressed or upset response to the events in the entire epilogue and the mc can choose to dump them over it.

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Expounding on why you think Auguste is just going to be able to bounce back doesn’t change the fact that it’s still just supposition. Renaldt sold the children of other aristos, possibly nobility, into effective slavery. That may not be enough to get others of her social rank to turn away from her and her family, but the fact that she got publicly caught out would.

Either way, I’m relatively certain we’re just going to run in circles. Agree to disagree.

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@HarrisPS: I loved this game - it is the only Choice of Game Game that can compete with Academagia, my favourite IF game, in quality.

I hope that you will not mind my asking, but might you write a sequel or something set in this same world?

I can imagine with pleasure reading an adventure about the PC and Delacroix as scholar-archaeologists with Beatrix.

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Thank you so much and I’m so glad you enjoyed playing! That means a ton :smile:

I have some ideas for future projects, and a couple are in the same setting, but there isn’t anything concrete lined up at the moment. Right now I’m 99% sure that if I was to do something in the same setting, it would have a different PC. I’ll keep everyone posted if and when anything develops!

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For me the scholar-archaeologist would be my second mc, who is with Max. :wink:

While such a thing would be nice I’d be happy with just a patch in the epilogue that would allow the mc to possibly accept Max/Delacroix or Rosario’s help when they offer it, instead of being forced by the game to turn it down, just something anything to indicate the mc might not suddenly be a-ok and entirely back to their old, dashing, selves again in just a couple of days after being forcibly indentured for weeks or months. :unamused:

I’d still like a possible (royal) wedding DLC, would at least allow the series to end on a high note for my mc, instead of the current bittersweet one.

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Well, in my conception, Delacroix would be prone to interpreting any archaeological finds as cursed, and the PC could support or contradict her intuitions. Because Delacroix loves ancient artifacts, it seems.

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I’m just confused is all, I’ve tried being in Starlings and being more steady but he never gets engaged, is there any extra tips you could help me with

This is potentially very exciting. I think the world is big and there’s a lot of room to explore, so I’d love to see a different MC.

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I love when sequels force us to create new PCs. Especially if the author introduces new ROs into the story. The stress of, “My PC is already in a relationship, but what if I fall for one of the new ones?!” is baaad. New PCs each game is the reason I fell in love with Dragon Age.

So if you do decide to write a sequel, I’m 100% on board with playing a new PC

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Yes I totally know that feeling! And when writing, people will (reasonably) want their pals from the last game but you also want new and shiny characters. It’s a juggling act that I’m not currently all that keen on trying out!

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I think too that in a sequel(?) for this game it’d be more fitting to have a different MC and meet mostly different NPCs (with a few already known faces here and there) in the same world. I personaly would be interested to experience an adults/young adults (who is already done with school) life in this world.
I feel like the MC who we played as in this game has their story finished one way or another, the rest (the wedding and stuff) can be continued through our imaginations.

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