# CoG and book's ext

**URL:** <https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/cog-and-books-ext/9130>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [April 30, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/cog-and-books-ext/9130 "2015-04-30T20:34:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Koda222](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/koda222/32/107422_2.png) [@Koda222](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Koda222)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/cog-and-books-ext/9130/1 "2015-04-30T20:34:21Z")

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Didn’t know were to put this but has CoG every thought about hosting books by authors of the games also?

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**Author:** ![Nocturnal\_Stillness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/nocturnal_stillness/32/100414_2.png) [@Nocturnal\_Stillness](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Nocturnal_Stillness)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 12:08pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/cog-and-books-ext/9130/2 "2015-05-01T12:08:22Z")

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I know @JimD and @Samuel_H_Young are both converting their gamebook into traditional novels. But I’m not sure if CoG are interested in publishing traditional novels. Also self publishing themselves will net the author more royalties.

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**Author:** ![jasonstevanhill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/jasonstevanhill/32/198375_2.png) [@jasonstevanhill](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/jasonstevanhill)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/cog-and-books-ext/9130/3 "2015-05-01T16:14:06Z")

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Yeah, there wouldn’t be any purpose to us interposing ourselves between an author and a storefront (such as Amazon) for traditional narrative.

With ChoiceScript, we have a programming language and access to platforms. In addition, we’ve been doing this for five years, so we have a brand and marketing reach. While the brand and marketing may be fungible, the language and platform access is certainly not. Thus, the upside for the author would probably be less than the downside.

At this time, anyway. Who knows what the future will bring?

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**Author:** ![PaulGresty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f05b48/32.png) [@PaulGresty](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/PaulGresty)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 6:44am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/cog-and-books-ext/9130/4 "2015-05-02T06:44:43Z")

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An RPG/gamebook publisher did talk to me some time ago about converting The ORPHEUS Ruse into a dead-tree gamebook. But, practically, it would have involved a fairly immense amount of work to wrestle the text for TOR - about 160,000 words - down to a manageable 60,000ish-word gamebook. And it would likely have been for a very small print run.

The publisher would probably have commissioned some artwork for the book, which is a very cool upside. But, overall, it just wasn’t viable.

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**Author:** ![Koda222](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/koda222/32/107422_2.png) [@Koda222](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Koda222)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 7:52am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/cog-and-books-ext/9130/5 "2015-05-02T07:52:36Z")

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Ahh ok well thanks for telling me all this I appreciate.

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**Author:** ![Koda222](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/koda222/32/107422_2.png) [@Koda222](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Koda222)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 7:54am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/cog-and-books-ext/9130/6 "2015-05-02T07:54:56Z")

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I would love to see the work you made turn into a book maybe a series of book that go more in depth about the world.

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**Author:** ![PaulGresty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f05b48/32.png) [@PaulGresty](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/PaulGresty)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/cog-and-books-ext/9130/7 "2015-05-03T15:27:58Z")

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Ah, thanks for that. My next CoG game, MetaHuman Inc., takes place in the same setting. It doesn’t focus on psychics, especially, but there’s a little crossover between the two games.

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**Author:** ![Koda222](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/koda222/32/107422_2.png) [@Koda222](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Koda222)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2017, 5:47am UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/cog-and-books-ext/9130/8 "2017-07-29T05:47:24Z")

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Hey I figured I’ll drag this from the dead instead so making a topic has their been any change in thinking about CoG publishing regular books?

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**Author:** ![jasonstevanhill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/jasonstevanhill/32/198375_2.png) [@jasonstevanhill](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/jasonstevanhill)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/cog-and-books-ext/9130/9 "2017-07-29T16:30:10Z")

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Many people have asked. The problem is, we don’t bring anything to the table, really. Like, none of us have worked in traditional publishing, and we don’t have the competitive advantage of ChoiceScript. So, while we could, it seems like it would ultimately be a waste of time.

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**Author:** ![Koda222](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/koda222/32/107422_2.png) [@Koda222](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Koda222)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/cog-and-books-ext/9130/10 "2017-07-29T21:16:26Z")

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Ahh ok thanks for the reply I was just curious.

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**Author:** ![Carlos.R](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/carlos.r/32/75837_2.png) [@Carlos.R](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Carlos.R)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/cog-and-books-ext/9130/11 "2017-07-30T23:39:42Z")

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This article is a bit dated but still has good advice:

> **[The 5 Steps to Writing a Novel that Sells](https://www.writersdigest.com/get-published-sell-my-work/give-em-what-they-want-excerpt)**
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> To create a marketable product—in this case, a salable manuscript—you need to follow these five steps. Although they may seem obvious, many writers ignore them.
