# Choice of Rebels: Uprising — Lead the revolt against a bloodthirsty empire! **URL:** \ **Category:** Choice of Games games\ **Tags:** gender-choice, high-fantasy, choice-of-games\ **Created:** [November 9, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/choice-of-rebels-uprising-lead-the-revolt-against-a-bloodthirsty-empire/32089 "2017-11-09T16:43:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2919
**Author:** ![Laguz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/choiceofgames/user_avatar/forum.choiceofgames.com/laguz/32/90734_2.png) [@Laguz](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/u/Laguz)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/choice-of-rebels-uprising-lead-the-revolt-against-a-bloodthirsty-empire/32089/2919 "2019-06-18T18:27:01Z")
> [@Havenstone](#): > > Halassurq culture) are strongly reinforced by the Empire’s religion, which reveres Great Mother Ummay, her Consort Kormuz, and Evren the Firstborn Sorry I just keep fucking thinking of the desert kingdom of Halassar and their worship of the mother Goddess, and their also seeing a magical desert storm as the embodiment of all evil and _also_ having a big war with a fantasy medieval European-based country while simultaneously being part of an empire. This desert kingdom sucks ass it’s got boring gender roles and no fish assassin lesbian consorts. I want out immediately > [@Havenstone](#): > > but with the twist that Evren the Firstborn was reinterpreted as an androgyne. (The Halassurq holy texts don’t specify Evren’s gender, as o was sacrificed and resurrected in the form of a dragon before o could fulfil any of o’s gender roles.) > > This widespread Heresy of the Firstborn popularised the idea of a sacred third gender–people who performed both male and female roles and dressed in a striking mix of masculine and feminine styles/colours. Oh boy, the gender trinary… just as boring (big yawn) > [@Havenstone](#): > > at age 15 a child would be formally named after their most recently deceased relative, regardless of gender, I hate to think of a sickly family. I am Jo, son of Jo, who was also son of Jo, because people called Jo die in my family a lot. > [@Havenstone](#): > > Maybe he was known for his affection to the village’s children, or his conflict resolution, or his ability to hold his liquor. My name is Ian and I play golf everybody. My role is making racist comments over Sunday lunch > [@Havenstone](#): > > But (due in large part to the legacy of Halassurq attitudes, where asking someone their gender would be a deathly insult) Finally, something I can get behind. We slow Harrow transphobes. My city now > [@Havenstone](#): > > Jev is “unknown gender,” even to onu-self. No point in the Nyrish trinary feels right, so o doesn’t see a need or reason to claim any of them. I like this. I like this a lot. You’re doing that thing where. Where. No it’s good, I like this. Trinary bad. Non-binary not “third gender”. Discussing this. This is good. > [@Havenstone](#): > > Jev wears hunting leathers, which are associated with a masculine role, as is the kohl o likes to wear around o’s eyes, but o wears o’s hair in a feminine braid. That isn’t the sort of strikingly androgynous presentation that would lead other Nyr to class o as third-gender, or indeed to assume much of anything. Jev: mascara and chaps. NB cowboy dresses like my mother > [@Havenstone](#): > > infinitely changeable, and have no fixed nature. I’m getting some kamuy vibes from this, yeah? > [@Havenstone](#): > > many Seracca will seek to change sex at some point in their (long) lifetime. They’re **all trans** and there’s nothing you can do to stop them > [@Havenstone](#): > > To change one’s body to be intersex or no-gender/no-sex is semi-sacred, as one then more closely reflects the nature of Spirit. I’m still nb but I’d wouldn’t want to… change myself too much like that. Also equating nb-ism to physical sex, means that you’re putting physically nb people on a sacred pedestal. It’s like “trans women who have had the operation are more valid than those who haven’t” but fantasy worlded up to be “nb people who have had “neutralising” are better” which is _not good_, as the main jokes against non-binary people are invalidation of their gender based off their genitals. You’re still doing this in your fantasy world by putting intersex and I’d go as so far to say mutilated people higher than nb people who choose to remain DFAB or DMAB. You’re doing that thing that cis people do where our _genitals_ becomes a really important or magic thing in your trans “accepting” lore for like… no fuckin reason. which is **Bad**. > [@Havenstone](#): > > Laj considers themself to be gender-variable, with their spirit shifting frequently between genders faster than their flesh could possibly keep up. They therefore dress and present accordingly, based on how they feel on a given day. I see. Genderfluid. and… Genderflux… > [@Havenstone](#): > > Laj changes their physical sex Thanks but do I gotta know this? Did I not say gender? Is gender not a different thing from physical sex? Why do I gotta know genitals again? Why are cis people fascinated with trans genitals and sex changes again? As if that has anything to do with - especially non-binary -gender? > [@Havenstone](#): > > open season Me taking a sledgehammer to this: ah yes, time to take the pieces out that I like and ignore absolutely everything else --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.choiceofgames.com/t/choice-of-rebels-uprising-lead-the-revolt-against-a-bloodthirsty-empire/32089)._