Did the girlfriend/boyfriend/best friend die? Because all the Bearer saw before they ran away was the knife being raised to strike. Maybe they have been injured in the encounter, but the person who is controlling the Seekers could’ve decided to make the Bearer’s girlfriend/boyfriend/best friend a possessed puppet to use against the Bearer later on. That…would likely lead to a messy encounter (I can see some Bearers possibly having a emotional breakdown and going into a bit of a rampage mixed with anger, grief, and guilt).
But yeah, I could see one particular issue the Bearer may possess is a recklessness in protecting their loved ones after failing to protect someone close to them in the past. Not sure how their friends, fathers/Athena/Hades, or their love interest will react to that. Though some of the ROs would probably get pretty anxious about the recklessness and become even more protective toward Bearer (which could lead to a argument between the two about how far either of them should be going when protecting the other) or even avoid telling the Bearer about certain things to prevent them from acting recklessly and attempt to handle certain situations on their own. Sort’ve reminds me of Dragon Age Inquisition and why a Hawke who romanced Fenris traveled alone rather than take him with them: their exact words were “Fenris would have killed himself to protect me. I didn’t want to give him that chance”.
This would probably be even worse for my MC than an outright boyfriend-death…
But there are still a lot of unanswered questions about the encounter that several people (Athena, Hades, etc.) would likely know some answers to, and that my MC would very much like to ask.
I do think that if my MC does fall in love again (I suppose it’s possible…), he would end up as a very self-sacrificial sort of boyfriend.
After playing the reformed opening of the childhood, my Bearer Echo is probably the one who is the most likely to be very uncaring over their own life when it comes to protecting a loved one. They had live with the fact that, despite supposedly being a Demigod and being stronger than normal mortals, they FAILED to protect their best friend from harm (just because they are not the most emotionally expressive doesn’t mean that they’re care for their loved ones isn’t deep). Their devotion to training/studying stems from a constant nagging feeling of "I have to get stronger or I can’t protect them’, which has gotten them to overexert themselves constantly in their attempts at getting stronger both physically and mentally. Not sure how Sage or Avery are going to take that display of recklessness, as the former can be equally as reckless and the latter’s whole occupation is looking out for others health (yep; Echo’s is one of my Bearers who will possibly be romancing Sage. May the Gods have mercy on their soul ).
I thought in this setting Helen was a goddess not just a demigod? [quote=“Rohie, post:3160, topic:15482”]
Don’t worry; Helen is a Goddess. She’s still alive, you know.
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About the other immortal demigods…I guess they are solving quests for the gods to prepare for the war if they didn’t end up dead by murder/accident…
I thought they were simply hunting us for a bit of sport or to “train” us (in a way that’s actually torture) with either the Gods blessing, or at least their tacit acquiescence, since the Gods apparently have no trouble finding us once they seemingly get really motivated to finally do so, of course by then it is too late to train the mc in any way, not that the Gods seem to even have the intention of actually training us of course.
Manipulate maybe, but not with any degree of finesse and unlike Aeson due to us being on the run for nearly three years after that we seem to be stuck at that level for the most part and it is not a level where I’d be comfortable with having my mc try to fix his verticality problem with the amount of control he has over his powers right now.
But then again what the mc actually does isn’t actually “magic”, something that Aeson has known for quite a while and the mc has only just learned. Now have fun catching up. It’s like we’ve been trying to train our upper body strength by just running, yeah we may have gotten a bit stronger and fitter, but for what we actually wanted to accomplish we have clearly gone about it entirely the wrong way all this time.
Take my feedback with a grain of salt. But in my opinion text does little job in make us look wanted special and powerful. Harry Potter is a good comparation.he was treated like shit in his home. Exactly as bad a here the gods as @idonotlikeusernames has said. However Rowling was a master in how deal the change of that in just few lines. How The owls coming how the cat and better how Hagrid defended him when he was hidden . How he explained in few words how important he is …
In your case you are portraying the exactly opposite.with Saint and Caly WE DON’T GOING TO SAY YOU ANYTHING YOU COME WITH US.
Harry was carried right away to Diagon for awhile to take care and better make player allows to see HOW IMPORTANT HARRY IS and to enter in the world gradually not like Wow Everyone knows all and have been training centuries and my twin is damn the master of universe and Elvis Presley. Then we look ourselves and see we don’t know anything we are forced to some tutor and classes with the worse mate ever. And give no damn explanation and anything and everyone look us like we poop in them and also we are in a trial for murder. I mean that no screams I am the best mage ever I am fine and I an powerful. The only i have seen is a little burning to a cheerleader a weak shield spell and a charm made in a dwarf second hand shop.
If you want us FEEL powerful. Just show me how i killed the chimera. And really a some kind of glamour Aeson has. I could imagine in the week in Hospital something like Harry Potter. Like some people sending flowers and sweets and some postcard maybe a boy just arrived going to fan over us.
I would love a Zeus grandiose scene saying ALL THIS WE YOURS IF YOU JOING US IN THE INCOMING WAR… similar to the scene in the Bible with Satan and Jesus about being the ruler of world. Or palpatine with Anakin.
Your text is great but all scream you are hated, and everyone. Is better than you and there is no way of win. And Aeson is perfect in his glitter
Harry Potter is no good comparison. Harry was the boy who lived that made him special, he brought an end to Voldemortd regime, what only was bad for his supporters. But those are throughout without doubt painted as the bad guys, so it’s good when it’s bad for them.
The MC on the other hand is prophecied to eventually enable a new era for Cronus to rule, who many on Olympus fear. That’s completely different. The gods have a reason to see MC as risk and half of them makes no secret of the fact that they believe that they would be better of with MC being dead.
You seem to ignore that not all gods even want MC to fight for them.
And what does have to the fact the text doesnt make us look powerful? Of course it is not exactly same plot we are not talking about plot. We are talking about how make a character look powerful and love or not. Nothing in text make me feel I am powerful particularly. The text remarks everywhere how much we don’t know and how little control we have. Then contrast in detail in several parts how millions of Better Aeson was treated was loved. How he is taller smarter More beautiful and even he glitters in several places. Ah and he has full control of his powers and is a complete warrior.
Even then the comparison is not a good one, because Harry was being treated as powerful, despite he only having lucky circumstances and not being really powerful…And if we are completely honest many parts of the books are devoted to him feeling not as powerful as everybody seems to expect him to be.
And being loved and powerful are two completely different things.
MC is not loved, they are feared, that’s the whole point of the prophecy and all. You expect the characters to react to the MC in a way that isn’t fitting the context (and also not the characterization of said NPCs).
Yes. Because MC isn’t able to reality warp yet, what would be the only way for them to change their situation…Also I think that is quite the point thinking at:
I just don’t think this game is meant to be some power fantasy…There would be no story witthout MC having the potential to grow.
Even though the rewrite is better than the old text it still has the habit of doing this quite often.
Like Mara says then it contrasts us with pretty, perfect Aeson who is everything that we are not, fully trained, taller and prettier and he can actually control his powers with a much greater degree of finesse and precision then we can. The last kick in the face of course is that this is even worse if Hades is our father since the guy was had no problem playing happy family with Aeson all this time, while saddling us with the “uncle” sham and then leaving us to fend for ourselves, making us the clear unfavourite. Which is part of the reason why my mc wants to have nothing to do with his so-called “father” now.
A better comparison might be the protagonist of the Wheel of Time series, who is also an incredibly powerful (and multiply-reincarnated) being, who is feared as much as he is respected (often much more), is quite often hunted down by the people who really should have been his allies, despite the fact that the destinies say he has to face the Dark One to save the world. And he has a cool-yet-annoying half-brother he doesn’t find out about until late into the plot.
Well it looks like you loved not only call me jerk also Repeatedly missing my points. @Rohie is asking why I and @idonotlikeusernames feel our characters are not powerful and are totally doomed. So i expresed her why I feel my character is doomed and worst in everything that an average demigod.
In my culture people tend to try to placating the people they fear with adulatory flattery stuff. Rome was famous in that and Cleopatra. If someone will be powerful enough to wipe me out or save me . We try to placating him give the best in everything. And give presents … Not treating it like shit.
In your culture…Not everyones…I honestly can’t quite grasp what exactly you want. Is it really that the whole Pantheon should try to cheer the MC?
That wouldn’t make sense with half the Pantheon wanting MC dead? And the difference to Aeson is seemingly wanted…because of the irony of him being the Bestower aka the one who will end without powers, being the one who had to be trained for the position they actually had for the MC. (Also because it is very strongely hinted that being Olympus “hero” comes with a prize, that he already had to pay.)
I don’t loved you calling a jerk, but I don’t care if you are in character or not when you are acting like one.
As it is @Rohie has done a good job of making us an underdog by making us relatively less powerful than we technically are. do to lack of trainign and trust. This is do to the focus on our losses.
Which is great if underdog is what @Rohie is aiming for as we surely has most against us.
If we are suppossed to feel powerful, though. We really, really need some victories sooner than we get them. Likewise if we are suppossed to feel accepted by the gods or the Aeson’s gang something in the interactions could definitly change. As it is I felt better treated by Santiago than Aeson’s gang (at the moment). Purely based on the feeling that at least he is that way with most everyone.
I think what @poison_mara is trying to suggest is that it’d work in the Council’s favour to treat MC with a degree of, perhaps not adoration or awe, given that it would be unrealistic but for them to maintain a more honeyed approach. The MC might find themselves more inclined to cooperate with them, then. Personally, I don’t understand why Aeson is so threatening? Is it because he’s everything that your MC is perceived as not being? I think it was pretty well established that the adulatory air he’s seemingly surrounded by comes at a distinct cost. Aeson’s doing what he can to survive on Olympus, and he’s perceptive enough to recognize that the most effective way to do that is to give the citizens and council what they want; a hero. It’s more a facade, than anything else. It certainly isn’t easy, he’s essentially the Council’s plaything. He literally collapsed on his return from the quest they sent him on when you were due to arrive, if that’s any indication. Also, Aeson trained himself in the use of magic. He didn’t have a teacher, either. I completely understand the frustration that accompanies Olympus’s general attitude towards the MC, and the sense of being inferior is justified too but it seems like the thread constantly circles this topic.
While I agree that the MC could definitely use a morale boost, don’t the trials give you the opportunity, at least to some extent?
I don’t think we’re ‘supposed’ to feel any one way. Do you mean to say that we’re supposed to feel a degree of assurance, when it comes to our powers? Or that we’re not meant to feel weak? I think it’s objective. I’m not of the opinion that MC is weak, quite the opposite. We haven’t afforded the same opportunities that the others have had for training, and that deficit’s made implicit. However, I do feel its important to take MC’s life while on the run into account. Given our limited resources we display at least a knack for remarkable resourcefulness, at worst and cunning, beguiling, and a solid handle on our powers for someone who’s had relatively no training at best.
But then we again end up with the problem that half of the council doesn’t even want MC to cooperate but seems to only wait for them to make a mistake…
Personally I thougt the way they acted was understandable, considering how tense the situation seems to be between the the half of the council that wants to give MC a chance and the half that wants to kill them…but it would be nice to get some more visitors during the one week MC was in hospital. After all it was okay that Demeter did visit them…
But, hey, I also personally thought that MC was rather capable during their time on the run and their first days on Olympus, so I anyway am a minority here.
If you’re hinting at Aeson’s little “quests” then we have already paid the price too, seeing as how we have just been hunted by their Seekers for the past three years.
Not entirely, Aeson simply keeps the power level he currently has, seeing as how the only bit of the essence he has always had access to is the piece that makes up his “soul”.
At the moment neither Aeson nor the mc has access to the essence, other than the bits that make up their souls and in that department it is obvious that Aeson is superior to us by far.
Yeah, the mc is supposed to get a lot more powerful at or after that stupid 18th birthday, but, like I said, I highly doubt that will make him a better mage than Aeson, just a far more powerful one. However all the things my mc really wants to do require actual control, raw power and brute force are worse than useless to my mc. Particularly since the price of all that useless power is turning into a decrepit, desiccated, withered husk very fast (or getting the “immortality” and being stuck as we are then for eternity).
No, they really don’t as they will likely just reinforce that Aeson is better at pretty much everything than we are ever going to be.
Yes and considering that Santiago is probably a spoiled, frigid, jerk of an ice prince that is saying something. But yeah, my mc really loathes alternately being treated like a servant or a charity case by the Scooby gang and being expected to trust them and open up to them first, when it really works in the reverse, if they are actually nice and open up to my mc first only then may he learn to “trust” them to extent and open up to them a bit more.
As it currently is with them expecting him to trust and open up to them first, particularly considering how they treat him the relationship really isn’t working out.
Probably not considering our powers are nearly worthless with the “limited” amount of control we actually have over them.
Rohie was saying we are powerful and capable better than other demigods. I get all contrary vibe. Most compared as @gia said with Aeson. In my culture we follow the get enemies closer and make them unaware of your hate. Gods were cruel about that with some mortals if some god started to adulate you hide your wife from Zeus. So that’s. Why shock me so much. I came from a culture of backstabbers. Olympics is a place of pure backstabbers. They WONT say I HATE YOU YOU ARE SHIT AND WE WOULD. GOING TO KILL YOU. But the way you could go with cannibal grandpa and vanished our rule maybe he would treated nice. Also do you want be your soul mate lame sidekick? We have give him all negates you.
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It’s like we’ve been trying to train our upper body strength by just running, yeah we may have gotten a bit stronger and fitter, but for what we actually wanted to accomplish we have clearly gone about it entirely the wrong way all this time.