Of course because titans were angels who didn’t killed the two previous generation of mortals. Gods are awful but Titans aren’t great either. Titans would create a demons army to destroy the mortal lands. chronos would send demos to earth and attack humanity.so i don’t consider that cool.
Yes? Every time I see titans mortals either, don’t exist yet or are happy in a golden age. And even then a titan is the one who gets society going with the discovery of fire. Plus god of farming, destroying mortals would take out one of the things he rules over.
I mean if we are going by evilest I’d think Gaia who isn’t either.
I wonder if there are any arachnophobes who hate Athena?
It was called the Golden Age because humans were too dumb to realize how shit their lives were. Cronus would treat us like cheap entertainment and food, kind of like exotic meals.
I don’t know, not dying, and felling no pain, fear or anything else bad sounds pretty good.
No we died, the Underworld always existed, it was one of the first things Gaea created. Except it was run by a Titan, I’d imagine the Titan of the West really didn’t care enough to process the souls and kept them in limbo.
Considering that @Rohie has already diverged from every version of Greek myths that I know by having Cronos kill all the other titans it seems safe to assume that we know nothing about who or what Cronos actually is. The only thing we do know is that he scares the crap out of the gods. Which only means that we can’t trust any of the stories about him since they all come to us from those same frightened gods.
yes, the omnipotent Olympian gods are terrified of just a single person. That should tell you enough.
Wasn’t the underworld just Tartarus? Plus isn’t death one of the things in Pandora’s box
The only thing that always existed was our dear Chaos.
Fear of death came out of Pandora’s box, not death in general, and nope, the Underworld had all of its parts even then.
Gaea created things out of the primordial goop that was the universe and one of the first things she made was the Underworld.
Thantanos, the literal God of Death, was a son of Nyx and her husband which just demonstrates how old it was.
Hmmm… I’d like to argue about not having a timeline of his birth, he could have been born at any period.
Plus Greek gods are definitely not omnipotent, they have been tricked several times.
Either way I will keep my good opinion of Kronos until we meet him. Plus in general I haven’t seen enough myths about titans or their era to even judge them.
[quote]When I have the Essence by my side
They will create a great divide
And when you see that there is no truth in your belief
Look to the Between, for they are the source of your grief.[/quote]
I cannot help but be reminded of insular communities who create and feed off each other’s terror.
Mayhap part of the prophecy indicates they are afraid of the wrong thing…
If we get enough power, can we just create Kratos and let him take care of all our problems?
The Greek gods aren’t omnipotent. Omnipotent implies all-knowing, which they very much are not. As a matter of fact, most of the Greek mythos involves the gods NOT knowing.
They are highly powerful, but not all-powerful, else there wouodn’t be an entire pantheon. And they are not all-knowing. Therefore, they cannot be omnipotent.
The Fates aren’t even omnipotent, though they come the closest to it
(Qnd yes I realize prior people have said much the same thing)
Also Kronus is the definition of fucked up. He and Zeus are the reason for all daddy issues, if the Greek mythos is to be heralded as fact.
Also: re omnipotent gods: omnipotent is all-powerul, omniscient is all-knowing. They’re often used interchangeably but are definitely not the same. The Greek pantheon is neither, though the Fates come closest, because they control who lives and dies. There’s a CoG or Hosted that follows that idea. Chosen of the Gods or something like that?
I do wonder, though, why Kronos bisected the Essence, then prophesied having the Essence by his side again. Y u do dat, Kro-kro?
No, it does not, omnipotent is all-powerful, omniscient on the other hand is all knowing, which I agree the Greek (and Norse and Egyptian polytheistic Gods really weren’t, even omnipotent is a stretch). The truly omniscient God is, to the best of my knowledge, a Christian creation.
In any case that very difference between omnipotence, which it is implied the Bearer sort-of gets at their eighteenth birthday and omniscience. the bearer’s relation to omniscience can be summed up like this:
which is to say, it’s a nice thing that we’re not getting, dumb, ignorant toys that we are.
Considering our track-record of previous incarnations looking 19 going on 90 I think it is safe to say that despite the Bearer getting something akin to omnipotence the one thing they do not get is any time to actually figure out how to do anything useful with it, like say, make themselves immortal, or at least live a normal lifespan without turning into a desiccated husk by age 20.
I do not in fact think that such a thing is safe to say.
Of course we don’t know exactly what will happen, but your personal conception is that the Essence will be essentially useless to us regardless. Which is fine, but keep in mind your MC is possibly the most pessimistic I’ve ever come across.
It’s stated quite clearly multiple times that the Bearer will have an innate understanding of the Essence and an instinctive ability to control it due to our nature. Not only do we have that, but said innate understanding also very likely leads to an accelerated rate of learning beyond anything humans or possibl demigods are capable of.
I’m not saying that the possibility of having no time to do anything is nonexistent, but I think nothing is ‘safe’ to assume with the Essence and our powers surrounding it, especially not the extent of our powers. Your MC may be too dim to control it until it’s too late, but assuming that we don’t have the time to learn how do absolutely anything useful is ludicrous, and frankly quite dangerous.
Not only my mc, but judging by the fact that we exist at all, (nearly) all of our previous incarnations shared that fate too, as the essence seems to burn us out very fast, usually within a year. Even if we are natural and very fast learners the historical examples are not on our side,considering even our genius composers and mathematicians often needed months, years or even decades to create their finest works and they were frigging geniuses, some of the best humanity has ever had to offer, literally.
Is it? The Gods only need us to blow up grandaddy, Cronos, right? That we may be able to do with very little understanding since all that may require is throwing out enough power to nuke the guy, little control and next to no finesse and understanding needed for that, and if we burn out our body and kill ourselves in the process too, that would be a win-win, as far as the Gods are concerned.
Again, the experiences of our previous incarnations seem to indicate that however fast it may be, it’s never quite been fast enough to “save” them.
Or maybe tampering with our mortality or even our physical age is another thing Cronos’ “conditions” prohibit us from doing, if so we’re either going to age rapidly or, assuming the gods do grant us “immortality” be trapped in the crappy state our “demigod” bodies are in at the time and end up looking 18 forever.
You’re assuming that they all had the ability to try to hone their skills, though. Take Korrina/Leon for example. They’re supposed to be the previous incarnation of the Bearer, but they show no inclination that they even know that they’re the Bearer to begin with. Maybe I’m missing something, but the literal only comparison we have isn’t a very good one then since the situations are completely different.
If that’s the case, the ‘experiences’ of our past selves is EXTREMELY unreliable to to such a gigantic degree.
I believe I mentioned that
And even if this isn’t the case, yes they needed a long item to create their finest works. But I am neither talking about the Bearers finest works, nor do I believe that the situations are comparable. Yes, it may take the worlds finest geniuses a long time to create their works, but at the end of the day are the mathematics and the science and the music literally fused to their very soul? Is their area of expertise literally linked to their life-force and is literally who they are? No. No they are not.
It took human geniuses years to create their masterpieces in fields they were separate from, no matter how naturally proficient they were.
Do I think it will take a demigod the same amount of time to create something as relatively simple as their own immortality in the face of their almost endless power in a field that is literally linked to their life-force and is literally who they are?
No. No I do not.
Bro. Re-read my post. I said omniscience and omnipotence are different but often interchanged things. I realized that I had misspoken and fixed what I said. No need to be rude
Besides, it’s an incredibly, incredibly common screw up. They’re often used interchangeably due to their relation to omnipresent beings.
Aside from that, I would hesitate to say the bearer is omnipotent. To weild omnipotent powers, one must have omniscient intelligence, else one cannot handle the immense powers. Hence, the CAPABILITY is there, but the actualization is not.
Forgive me if any of that wasn’t as well put together as usual. I’m running on about 6 hours of sleep for the last three days combined.
Also, can I just say this thread is the definition of a circle-jerk? We have this exact conversation roughly every 8 days, like friggin’ clockwork. I think this is why the mods usually close down WiP threads.
Meh, I just think we’ve run out of things to discuss until the next update comes out. When said update does come out, there’ll be a slew of other things we can discuss, I’m sure.
Plus, this thread blew up like I’m pretty sure no other thread has before. So it’s possibly like a ‘one big explosion and then nothing as opposed to a steadily burning fire’ type deal.
That’s Chronos you’re talking about, Cronus is just a “lowly” titan of harvest, though the term does oftentimes confused or interchanged, but Chronos is way more powerful than Cronus, he created Aether and Chaos (In one cosmogony), while Cronus most magnificent achievement is just castrating Uranus.