Children of the Gods (Important poll #12306)

If she was Aeson’s mother too then she was just as bad as “daddy” Hades in that she could apparently be a real mother to Aeson before her (faked) death but not to us. :cry:

Oh and one last question at the end of the summoning would most likely be: “Where can I get some clothes, or at least some shoes?” As it is Saint and Calypso spend the rest of the day dragging the mc nearly naked across the whole of the institute grounds and it’s humiliating and not to mention having to do so barefoot is very uncomfortable too.

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I though the same but I decided canon that my girl borrowed some clothing to Avery. However @Rohie could you write that after wake up with our own new body we picked some new clothing for a wardrobe. I mean everyone could hate us but I hardly doubt they want a nude bearer barefoot showing her his it attributes to all the Olympus

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True, a reasonable assumption for a female mc, however not for a guy, particularly when it comes to shoes. He could never squeeze into anything meant for Avery’s dainty feet.
My headcanon is also based on the text explicitly mentioning how chilly that hospital floor is and then saying nothing about our feet or footwear again until Haris dumps it on your bed the next day, which I interpret as Saint and Calypso dragging the bearer everywhere half-naked and barefoot for the better part of a day, which on the school grounds would be extremely humiliating particularly seeing as how my mc is less than comfortable with his “new” body.

Just did a quick playthrough again and no they don’t they have absolutely zero practical training for the mc included in their sham of a schedule because those classes are apparently already filled up what we get is either forging or psychology as “Alternates for Training (Tue. and Thur.):” So they apparently really don’t want us to have any training except for our crappy survival and weak magic skills, which where clearly outclassed by both Saint and Calypso’s superior training both back in New York and even when you try to lunge at Calypso after getting out of that hospital or try to fight Sage in the school a day later.

Full class schedule, again no useful training just mostly time-wasting highschool subjects.
Student number 52788 | Grade: 12 | Locker #1356
7:00 AM - 7:55 AM Breakfast
8:00 AM - 9:00 AM Chemistry -graduated skip
9:05 AM - 10:05 AM Calculus -graduated skip
10:10 AM - 11:10 AM Advanced Placement Greek Mythology
12:15 AM - 1:00 PM Lunch
1:05 PM - 2:05 PM English -graduated skip
2:10 PM - 3:10 PM Training (Alt. Forging) While oggling Adonis’ arms is nice enough it is apparently an alternative to more practically useful training classes, particularly since it would presumably take years before we’re able to forge anything nice.

We have at least three utterly worthless subjects that smart mc could potentially skip out on in order to do something more useful, like visit Nephilim or just try to experiment with his new powers.

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They wants our utter ridicule and destroy our mind to becoming a brainwashed zombie weapon easy to manipulate. They want Aeson WINS WHILE BE JUST BE A STUPID CREATURE THERE DEPENDING OF HIM EVEN TO GO TO BATHROOM. They just dont want have a powerful mc , so they put him her in the most useless lessons they find for the trials. I hardly doubt chemistry would be a topic in the trials

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Aphrodite might want to test our chemistry.

Hmm in that chemistry I hardly doubt clothing are required lol. And sadly is not the chemistry in the high school my girl is a decent student 50 wit but is terrible in scientific and maths she is all allure and social and literature studies. Sadly half of her new studies are boring stuff she doesn’t care about

Umm Mara, saying you’re terrific at something means you think you’re very good or even awesome at it, I think the word you were going for there was terrible.

And this is the scene where Sage nearly kills us that gives my mc very little confidence in his untrained abilities to survive the trials, particularly since he’s not going to take any “help” from “daddy” Hades.

[spoiler] The girl’s eyes widen, her face contorting with barely contained rage.

Suddenly, her hands are around your neck, squeezing the life out of you. For someone so lithe, she has impossible strength.

This is what you think as the edges of your vision go black.

She
pulls her face close to you, her voice a feral whisper. “I will have
you tried and hung for murder if it is the last thing I do. I don’t give
a damn who, or what you are. My brother’s death will not go unavenged.”

Finally, hands pry her off you. You lay on the ground, your breath coming in short, strained huffs.

Your vision clears.

Adonis holds out a hand to you, steadying you up off the floor.

You look around and see the girl being pulled away by a few students. She catches your eyes, fury raging beneath the surface. [/spoiler]

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Damn English being terrific in something in Spanish is Beyond terror how bad you are. Fixed. Also yeah I had no confidence in my character skills when I see no matter your skills everyone defeat you so terrible easy. Like Cally or Sage . That’s mean my character would assassinate Sage in the back and with her drugged. No chance of a fight because we will be defeated in five seconds even for Chipmunk. The good part if we die Mr Glitter dies too.

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I am a little concerned by how easily Sage choked us out too. At least when Calypso made us look like a fool we can blame it on coming out of a coma an hour or so ago. We did handle her much better when the seekers first find us, if you choose to fight. And that was with the blocker still on us. I also did much better when I chose to spar with her later. Although I did still lose.

With Sage we are probably still weak but I at least took the option to put down my stuff and offer to defend myself. It was exactly how my character would respond to an attack. So you would think I’d be more ready when she came after me again. Nope, instant choke out.

Maybe our newly unblocked power is throwing our reflexes off or something.

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Unfortunately I think you’re right there, even our annoying roommate is far better trained than we are.

Aww, I’ll admit my mc is a bit jealous of his “brother” but he doesn’t really want him dead.
Now if our lifeforce was linked with “daddy” Hades on the other hand my mc would probably plunge that dagger into his own heart with glee. :wink:

Yes, my character would blame it on his unfamiliar “new” body, that he doesn’t even like to begin with too.
Still this is the body we have to “make do” with in order to compete in the trials, we cannot get our old one back.
It’s not exactly confidence boosting for the upcoming trials now, is it?
In his old body the mc apparently had a degree of desperate “do whatever it takes” “street combat” and survival skill, in our “new” demigod body we’re very much the runt of the pack it seems.

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But not what I meant. I meant that I think that it’s likely that she was the one who put the blocker on MC, meaning that she has some magical knowledge. If she was a sorceress that would also mean that she and Nephlim most likely knew each other. But sure, twist my words for a cheap joke.

She wasn’t. Aeson’s biological mother died as he was five, six (?).

Also in that case Aeson couldn’t be a RO, because then we really would talk about incest.

They did test MC’s combat abilities. In sport/training. I don’t know if you just forgot or if your MC really found a way to skip classes, but just to remember you: General Xene explicitely test out what MC can first. And it’s through combat.

They neither have the time nor does the political situation allow to assign a personal combat trainer to MC.

And if you want an absolutely trivial explenation for why MC is not allowed to just skip classes or to “get used to their new body”:
I would guess that even when half of the Council wants MC dead the ones that don’t would prefer to integrate MC into the costums of Olympus, so they throw them into school, were they are surounded by other demigods, to make them familiar with it. Also most likely to test how likely MC will follow the gods lead.
Should MC win they are the hero of Olympus, they will represent the gods, of course they want to make sure that MC has the level of knowledge they expect from their heros.
And another reason could be to see how MC deals with “normality” after the long time on the run.

And about the body …well I’m not even sure what you mean with getting “used” to it; by walking around and using the body the MC is getting used to it’s body. A convalescence period without using said body in an every day environment would most likely worsen any strangeness MC feels. Or do you want a rehab? Physiotherapie? In that case your MC is most likely not able to train for a fight, just by the way. Or are we talking about the psychological effects? If you want to simulate that just drive your MC’s stress high.

Does your MC just want more time? Because they don’t have time because a war is upcoming.

I think it was more that MC was most likely suprised, because even when they only actively noticed it at the dance: Sage is pretty fast. And very angry. Could cloud her mind while making decisions during the trials. That’s the reason why I don’t want to work too close with her.

The MC is the underdog of this story, again. The MC has enough reason to feel intimidated by the trials, but as we the readers know they are the vessel for the Essence. So I say it’s to expect that they have one or two tricks up their sleeves (maybe things we as reader didn’t see before).

We could expect whatever. Our characters has no way to knowledge anything about their future. You are talking metagaming while we are talking role-playing wise. It’s like talking two different languages. You’re being optimistic based this is a Cog abd it is true. However, my character doesn’t know is par of a game and because she is the hero she would be just fine … She found herself in a new body with weird powers being treated like a sewer rat and being attacked and menaced by everyone surrounding her. Then her supposed other half. Has all she ever wanted and more including a lovely father… And the gods loving him SHE IS IN RAGE IF SHE COULD she would kill him stolen all the stuff she deserves and was negated to her by the gods. She also has a crush on him she can’t deny so She is confused.

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I just acknowledged that the MC can be intimidated? I’m sorry but @idonotlikeusernames already said that he also does analyze the text even when it’s through a sometimes biased lense of his character, so it’s absolutely valid if I answer with analysis of said text. I certainly can differentiat between my MC’s opinion and mine (and opinions that are biased in favor of a MC), I don’t need that explained to me and certainly not three times. I don’t argue against ways a MC can see it, I question a text analysis, the same as said analysis questions the text (even when it partly ignores parts of the text).

I have no problem to accept that MC seems to be in a worse starting position and that it’s valid to ask why the gods do still force MC to take part in the trials. I don’t know who originally mentioned the importance of the destiny in the myths (I think it was @Bryce_Kaldwin) but I think we are on the right trail when we see the trials as a way to test MC’s destiny. We have basically two camps between the gods, one that want to kill MC and the others that want to give them a chance (@RanchoJoe also did theorize that the true war would be the war between the gods, on the inside, not between the gods and Crronus). So how does the give them a chance side now persuade the others from their opinion? By something no one can argue with. And that’s the result of the trials. MC has not the best chances, but if they win, they wil have proven that yes, they are worth to be Olympus hero and worth to stay alive despite the prophecy. That doesn’t make much sense when you don’t believe in destiny but for the characters we talk about it makes sense.

So it’s no suprise if the ones on MC’s side can’t help them more.

Would it be nice to have that explained better? Yes. But it already seems as if Rohie will give us some more exposition.

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I certainly believe that the underdog stuff is planned and goes well with the story from a meta gaming perspective for a character perspective sucks. And your view is more or less true I think. Even if I am not so optimistic and trusting like you are. I missed more religious pro gods reactions when I played Pro gods characters . My pro gods would certainly not only bow She would kneel And Ask for their blessings and how follow their will is the objective of her life then another reaction when Daddy is revealed A big hug, or kneel again Declaring I will be your Paladin Father I would make you proud.

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It also doesn’t make any sense to my character, who as we’ve established is pragmatical and cold-blooded and doesn’t care about or believe in mumbo-jumbo like prophecies. Though it is rather obvious that with their treatment of him the Gods are trying to make sure this particular prophecy will be a self-fulfilling one, provided he somehow manages to stay alive through the trials and eliminate the competition without accepting anything from “daddy” Hades.

The ones supposedly on the mc’s side don’t help him at all, even a few days of personal training and adjustment would have been vastly preferably to what we get.

Oh, yes our forced “alternative” to training is just on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Still that means we get a whopping whole three full and complete hours of bog-standard training, that everybody else who doesn’t have to participate in those trials at that “school” also receives, that’s really going to let us catch up on years of missed training and thoroughly prepare us in order to compete in those trial thingy’s. Not!

That’s an understatement, to put it lightly as it seems that literally everybody at that school who isn’t at least a couple of years the mc’s junior can apparently whop their ass whenever it suits them.
The very best we can do as a frigging demigod is to barely win in the “combat training” against an underclassman in a controlled, classroom setting. Our competitors in the trials won’t face the handicaps of a classroom and a referee and are far better trained and prepared than we are. The only way I can see for my mc to have any chance at winning is if he somehow manages to get ahead in the intel game and learns and exploits everybody’s weaknesses, but intel is if anything the area we’re even more lacking in than our combat skills.

It seems to be about the same chance that I have of winning the national lottery this month, sure it’s theoretically possible and I do have a ticket, but the possibility is so remote as to be laughable. Fortunately the only thing that’s riding on it for me is the ability to quit my job and move to sunnier pastures, not my very life.
Honestly if my life depended on that very remote chance I’d seriously be shitting myself right now.
I mean my mc couldn’t even get that pathetically weak magical shield of his up when Sage bullrushed him.

A time for psychological adjustment would have been nice, but fair enough we don’t have that, but at least teach me how to use this new, unwieldy and non-responsive body in combat somewhat. So I guess I’m asking for a couple of days of basic training from hell, not sitting around in a highschool environment.

But that’s about the only thing that has even a chance of making the slightest bit of difference.

But what we get is definitely not normality by any reasonable definition.

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Yeah my character is really a step near suicide. If nobody treated her better she would jump of the institute down to dealing with her miserable life. Nobody loves her, everyone is treating her like shit. And all her live was a pure lie. And worse she is in a death game reality show. She will kill her self soon if nobody looks for her mental status

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…Okay that are really good ideas. Bring the worship up to eleven! I would love to see the gods react to that and also if Hera still has such a outburst in that case, as “they are certainly not on our side” isn’t as believable when someone just kneeled before you. And the reaction at the ceremony when the bearer pretty much makes a vow to the gods would probably fantastic. (Even when it’s a little bit drama queen like, but I don’t think that anyone could beat Aeson when it comes to that, so…go for it)

Well, then you know the position MC is in and why their stress level can be so high.

About the rest… Half of the things you just brought up I already tried to explain… for about fifty posts or so, and you still force me to repeat myself again. It gets tirering and dull because in the end this discussion just turn around in circles. I’m sorry, but I’m out. This just gets too silly. (Half of the things I’m not even sure what you are arguing for or against anymore)

True. And if all else fails, there’s always magic and blame general mythos for plausibility. I mean weirder things have happened.

Thank :>

@COGZealot, I don’t recall that part? Persephone drugging MC that is? //goes off to play to find that portion While I do remember the mythos for not eating food from the Underworld, less you be trapped there forever, if your father is Hades, doesn’t that make you partially part of the Underworld? I mean, doesn’t eating or drinking food there only work if you’re not a denizen? Otherwise, it’s pretty much as stated :))

Apathy, the Trojan war dream made my MC value their life less, because they’ll just reincarnate, not that they don’t want immortality.

In other circumstances probably quiet desperation or defiance depending on how confident I am at the time.

Yup at the end of the demo. That’s why MC passes out directly after the toast and wakes up later to the trials.

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