I feel you… 8 years of german and my brain just retconned everything. For my mental health. Don’t take that the wrong way but german is awful. And awfully difficult. So yay for french, italian and spanish. (You see my brain is so lazy that it choose roman languanges and decided it was all it would learn spontaneously)
In the exemple of our choosing, the one where someone would be undergoing a highly charged moment emotionally, and be strained by it, don’t you think someone would mean what their anger/hurt would awaken within them? I believe they would.
That’s why you tell someone to turn their tong in their mouth before they speak. So that what they think can decipher what is real about the things that they feel…
Both what they think and what they feel is true and real. But it is only when you oppose your feelings and your thoughts that you get to know your final truth.
In a nutshell, truth is everchanging. It changes along what you feel, what you think. It is perceived differently according to who is watching/hearing. And what they feel and think about what they perceive. All I can tell is that the truth is never confortable, and it is much harder to be thruthful than to lie.
The dichotomy between the Truth and the Real is a complicated.
My canon mc’s hatred of the Gods actually has nothing to do with them. At least not directly. He has a lot of anger from being homeless and alone for 3 years while only a young teen.
I don’t know if any of you have experience with homelessness but it messes with your head big time. When I graduated college my home life went to shit, so instead of getting a job and apartment with my friends I bought two motorcycles, kidnapped my little brother (he was 16) and went on the run for a year. We rode from town to town doing odd jobs for food and gas money. I was just doing what I could to keep him safe from a dangerous situation, but the things we experienced changed us both.
I don’t regret anything but some of the other homeless youngsters we met told stories that can still make me sick decades later.
So yeah it’s not hard for me to pull up some anger for my mc. Also while my character might not 100% believe Athena’s kidnapping story is the whole story, it definitely hit me the player hard in the feels.
Of course what they feel is what they truthfully feel in the moment, but it’s at the most a splinter of the truth. For a full understanding the truth also would include the why. That would be the whole picture then.
Context changes the meaning of feelings. Being angry at someone because they have their own mind is different from being angry at someone for ignoring your own free will. That changes the meaning of the anger and with it the truth of the situation.
When the eye doesn’t care about that I already would say it’s twisting truth, even when it’s just slightly. But on the other side that could be the point. Like all the “be careful what you wish for scenarios”, when you have to be terrible specific for the wish not to be twisted in the opposite, the eye isn’t specific in the meaning of truth, twisting the output. But that would probably also emotional straining as it could fuck up ones own perception of truth, because the eye ignores context, despite the fact that context matters.
For none native speakers it has to feel as if the language would hate you. The only reason I know the grammatic is because I grew up with it
Oh yes! I completely agree with you since the beginning!
What I meant to say is that their moral principles are different than ours. They also have to deal with more complicated problems, greater evils. I didn’t imply that that they feel nothing.
After all, isn’t that way people love mythology so much? The gods feel almost human. It makes them more real, more tangible than the christian/muslim God.
Like us, they are flawed. Like us, they fight, they fail, they hurt.
When I was 8, I forced my dad to read me the Oddesseus for months. I love the Greek Pantheon.
I agree, I dealt with it as well. Different situations of course. Fresh out of highschool when that happened. I became quite paranoid because of it. That’s probably why I loved the wit option, “it changed me, and the experiences I had to go through”
Well that depends since Christians believe that God actually came down to earth to be human. As a Christian myself, I’d say that’s pretty tangible
And to jump in your guys’ language conversation, I’ve heard that English is also a pretty hard language to learn as a second language. After studying linguistics, I guess it would have to be since it’s a Germanic language with all sorts of French/Romantic vocabulary and pronunciations thrown in
No actually english is very simple. It is the most simple language I have had to learn. Conjugation is easy. Sentence building is easy. And vocabulary is hard no matter the language!
If you ask someone whose first language is english to look around them and count how many people speak another language properly, I assume there won’t be that many.
I speak four languages fluently. And almost everyone I know can speak english. Not always perfectly but they manage. (everyone I know that’s my age. The elderly don’t give a fuck)
Exactly! the Gods are like Super-heroes with no moral compass!
Now I’m flustered. I just like to overthink things…
@RanchoJoe How difficult a language is to learn depends also on how difficult/complex and/or similar the grammatic is in comparision to the own language. If your native language is more difficult than the language you want to learn it should be easier. English is indeed comparable easy in that matter (Also because it’s largely used, meaning practice is easier available; Also a huge factore). Would I try to learn Russian I probably would go crazy.
It’s also difficult if the grammatical structure is very different from the native language, Chinese for example has a rather “flexible” grammatic, as far as I know, that can be difficult to wrap ones head around if you’re not used to it.
Oh jeez, don’t get me started on the numerous inflections one can put on the Chinese “ma” and have it mean all sorts of things haha
You’re both right. As someone who grew up in the Philippines, English is remarkably different from Filipino since the two are in totally different language families. I’m just lucky I learned English at a young enough age and with a malleable enough brain XD
I’ve always been very interested in languages. The theory behind them, that is. When it comes to practical language use, I can’t really do much more than a little French, so anyone able to speak English on top of their native language (especially a non Romance or Germanic one) will always impress me.
Growing up bilingual supposedly helps in learning additional languages so I have English to thanks for making my time studying French and Spanish in high school a bit easier, I guess
The patriotic me is kind of proud! I thought no one studied french anymore!
Which reminds me that Adonis Amour (very revealing name by the way!) is my countryman!
@Rohie Where do the other demi-gods come from? Like Sage, Psyche, Avery and Iago? Or even Saint.
Now I’m flustered. I just like to overthink things… 
