Children of the Gods (Important poll #12306)

Or you look at it as excuse: Sorry I can’t lie anymore because of the artifact I use (You have to tell people that after all). Deal with it…I’m anyway only honest here.

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Aeson was adopted by Persefone so that Make him seem it like ok. He is Persefone baby adopted. However, you are a big scary bearer that certain mother god can point at him and say CHEATER

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Again, I’m basing my opinion of him strictly on how Rohie writes his character instead of relying too much on the actual real-life mythos. Yes, Poseidon creates earthquakes and hurricanes but the only example we have in this work so far was because he was fighting some giants. Yes, people died in that in-game earthquake but who knows how worse things would have been if he didn’t intervene? Who’s to say that all the earthquakes and hurricanes he’s created in the past weren’t to stop other terrible monsters from wreaking havoc?

@Nyxerie @Sammysam so the side-effect/drawback is that Lavei will become like Jim Carrey from Liar, Liar? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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I think I remember an episode of House MD during which he has to heal a man who speaks only the thruth. Like, it pours out of his mouth without filter.

It was hell for him. People don’t always mean what they think!

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Or maybe the price being any truth you see with the eye, no one will believe you if you try to tell it to somebody else!

I believed it is termed Cassandra’s Truth. Apollo cursed a seer named Cassandra which caused nobody to believe her accurate prophecies.

But if you don’t mean it, wouldn’t it already count as lie? After all it’s not your true feelings? So…it’s a lie too.

What does count as lie for the eye? Universal lies, lies from a personal standpoint? Does the eye stop MC from telling bullshit they learned once but actually is wrong?

Ok, I have characters who thought that. However, I wouldn’t never trust a psycho killer so easily. He has been killing people since the beginning of his realm. Millions

Say a civilian is accidentally hurt/killed in the middle of an operation conducted by cops to apprehend dangerous criminals. Is it regrettable? Of course. Should it not happen? Yes. Should the cops have been more careful? Hell yeah. But I don’t think it’d be fair to view the cops in this case as cold-hearted murderers. Murder in a legal sense actually has a lot of prerequisites to be classified as such.

What you say would be true, but just for a moment. Because you would mean it, but just for a moment. Like when you’re are very angry/sad/hurt and you insult people, to hurt them like they hurt you, to betray them like they betray you, even though you know they are not the things you call them. Your feelings influence your truth, but since your feelings might change, so will the truth!

Basically we could open up a whole philisophical debate on the nature of Truth. Trying to debate in english is hard. Do you speak french?:smile::laughing:

As depicted by Rohie, I see him more like a pragmatic individual of yet. I don’t know enough to say he is cruel. But he might be ruthless in his pursuits!

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You’re comparing one innocent person getting hurt rather than millions though.
Plus the Gods never cared. They’re basically adult babies. They throw a tantrum and millions die because of it. You comparison doesn’t really equal out. :worried:
Though I do agree on separating the legends from this story.

Nope, do you speak german? :sweat_smile:

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Lol, it’s not a perfect analogy but I was trying to argue the part about Poseidon being a murderer. To me, murder has to be both premeditated and have some mens rea included. It’s the fine line between manslaughter and murder. In my analogy, the cops and the Poseidon are both guilty of manslaughter

I can count to 10 and ask where the toilets are. Which is crazy because I was raised in Luxembourg.

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Yeah I see what you mean. In my mindset at least, I wouldn’t trust them for the fact as I stated above “adult babies”.
Even if they might regret it and feel bad. How many times are they gonna say sorry while the list of death continues.
In the end you can’t fully change one’s mindset if they seem rather fixated on it. Regardless, I see the point you’re trying to make. :slight_smile:

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I don’t think that will help us much in a discussion about truth… (even when it’s more as I can say in French. I had to learn the language for six years in school and nothing stayed in my brain…)

But basically the problem with the eye forcing you to tell the truth is: Whose truth? How does the eye decide what’s true?

If I say things without a filter, that’s not automatically the truth. When angry and wanting to curse someone the truth of the matter is not alone me wanting to curse or hurt the other one, but the own feeling of hurt on the bottom. So wouldn’t the eye rather lead to MC telling directly “I’ would love to hurt you right now, even when I like you, because what you said did really hurt me”? That would be the truth, not just hurting the other person.

Or does the eye just twists the truth too and that’s the drawback?

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Think about all Hurricanes and earthquakes in the last decade from USA to Japan from Haiti to Irak… Imagine that they were caused by someone called Poseidon. Tell them, all the victims that their death is ok and had a good reason… then multiply this for millenniums. MILLIONS AND MILLIONS BONES OVER BONES CITY OVER CITY… tell me he is a good guy . Pragmatism in my book does not support massive amounts of genocide and man slaughter

Sounds like you’re in Team Iron-Man too then. High five! :raised_hands: :stuck_out_tongue:

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I think that the Gods cannot, morally speaking, be compared to humans. I bet you that they don’t feel human.

And that’s the crux of the problem. You are human if you feel like you belong to humanity, whatever your reasons to feel that kinship. And that sense of belonging comes with an adherence to a bundle of laws and moral principles that we, proud members of the humans race, believe in and tend to stick to so that our society perdures.

The Gods don’t give a damn about our laws, about what we think is right or wrong. They do what their nature compels them to, as do we all.
But just because he is capable of creating an deadly earthquake that kills a lot of people doesn’t mean he is incapable of love. Even if it is a form of love we can hardly understand!

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Gods! I leave for, what, an hour? And I come back to 30+ posts!

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I feel like the gods still have to be, at least, a tiny bit relatable to humans. When Persephone was taken, didn’t Demeter, like most human parents probably would (cough Liam Neeson cough), rage and literally move heaven and earth trying to find her beloved daughter? Even Zeus castrated and killed his father for the sake of saving his siblings’ lives (Kids, don’t castrate your dads when they ground you and take away your iPhone. I know it feels like you’re dying, but don’t go Zeus in that instance)

The gods may not care for human laws but their strengths (knowledge, skill, actual physical strength), their weaknesses (pride, lust, anger), and their reasons for doing some of the things they do are still understandable in a human level. They’re both an ideal to strive for and a lesson to be heeded.

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