Woohoo! ENFP-five! 
And thank you for choosing me 
I will gleefully run through a mine-field of errors for CoG 
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I appreciate it greatly; I’m going to love this.
And congratulations on being apparently one of the most popular personality types. 7% is pretty big for a personality type.
(Quietly sits sobbing in corner with @talyka and @bellamyb because we’re INTJ’s and we’re alone).
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I’m an INTJ too. 
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Master of universe can make an exception and bring back whomever I have to kill to get immortality.
I’m with Joe <3 <3 <3
this is easily one of the most fantastic WIPs I’ve ever seen. You totally have a future as an author or game-maker. I could see you being the next David Gaider (hnng, his storylines are what i live for tbh)
oh ur evil ;~;
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I don’t think that was the intent, but it struck me as very harshly worded, as did some of your other points in that response. [/quote]
I don’t see what was so harsh about my paragraph above.
Perhaps we live in very different places, because I quite frankly know plenty.
I’d argue that they often do contribute. I used to have to call the exterminator every year to get rid of centipedes, and every 2 or 3 years to get rid of the occasional mouse that somehow found its way inside. My little Missy keeps my home rodent and centipede free and saves me the effort of having to remove the spider webs that appear in out of the way corners. If a mosquito or wasp gets into the house, she’ll draw my attention to it before it can bite or sting anyone.
As a friend of mine who strongly prefers animals over people has said to me repeatedly, “pets don’t backstab you”. I’m sorry if you find this disburbing, but not everybody feels the same way as you on this.
I totally understand where you’re coming from and I know a lot of people who feel similarly.
There are animals that are longer lived than humans, whales and giant tortoises, for example, and jellyfish are functionally immortal. As for sentience, it seems pretty clear to me that all of my pets have been self-aware and capable of feeling, so I have to disagree with you that only humans are sentient.
I think eunni is a bigger issue for an immortal than pain. Nevertheless for an immortal Bearer at least, the issue of loss is surmountable. Just make someone you care about deeply immortal too. Problem solved
[quote]No…unless the Bearer falls in love with (and has that love reciprocated by) Aeson or a god(dess), they will inevitably lose sight of what real, lasting relationships are.
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The Bearer has the ability to make people immortal. So there are literally billions of options when it comes to relationships…
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I was under the impression we were talking about a hypothetical immortal in a general sense rather than someone with eternal power. I was approaching it as if this person was immortal, but that was it for them, which is why I took such an approach. This clarifies some things. [quote=“P_Tigras, post:4532, topic:15482”]
I know the word has a certain emotional resonance, but logically speaking, I’m not sure what it means to treat someone as human. Humans have been mistreating each other since the beginning of history and continue to do so.
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That’s actually an interesting point, but what I think @ashestoashes018 was pointing out was that people are much more willing to treat humans with equality in regards to animals. Civilisation and attitudes towards animals have changed, but in a modern society, people would be inclined to treat a human as they would like to be treated, but not treat the animal that way because an animal isn’t capable of comprehending such ideals. For example, if a human killed somebody they would go to court and have a trial because that would be considered fair, but no such action would be taken if an animal acted the same way. The way the Gorilla recently on the news was treated that you mentioned is a good example.
Okay that went way more off topic than I expected, but in a purely strict sense, I think @ashestoashes018 was suggesting that you cannot continue to treat somebody like an equal when you’re a billion years old and have infinite power. That would not only be illogical but insane. There’s such an imbalance of power that it would virtually be like arguing that ants have the same intellectual capacity as humans. The idea is that treating somebody with respect and dignity and respecting every aspect of their life when you could snuff out any irritating qualities of theirs in an instant is much easier said than done.
I don’t know if its been addressed before, but can Aeson become immortal too??
It’s been pretty much agreed upon that since the MC and Aeson’s life forces are intertwined, then it’s extremely likely that if one becomes immortal, the other will too. And vice versa for the mortality aspect as well.
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Immortal soul mates. 
Yes, it’s so sweet I think I will develop a diabetes mellitus. 
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There’s always the possibility of one dying and the other can’t bear (pun intended) to live without them and it just turns into Romeo and Juliet. 
Then we will have to kill at least three other people and hope that at least one other person gets a heart attack. And they are too old to be Romeo/Juliet.
The Bestower and the Bearer really should have meet earlier for that scenario.
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That’s actually an interesting point, but what I think @ashestoashes018 was pointing out was that people are much more willing to treat humans with equality in regards to animals. Civilisation and attitudes towards animals have changed, but in a modern society, people would be inclined to treat a human as they would like to be treated, but not treat the animal that way because an animal isn’t capable of comprehending such ideals. For example, if a human killed somebody they would go to court and have a trial because that would be considered fair, but no such action would be taken if an animal acted the same way. The way the Gorilla recently on the news was treated that you mentioned is a good example.[/quote]
I don’t have an issue with any of this. Nevertheless, 30 years ago, there’d have been no real backlash to the gorilla being shot and killed to remove all risk to the child. Today there is. There has been a shift in cultural values, and that shift is continuing.
True. I entirely agree with what you’ve said here with the caveat that you’ve developed far greater intellectual capacity over that billion years. When I read tales of the Olympian gods and goddesses however, they don’t seem any more intelligent or wiser than ordinary humans, just more powerful and more dangerous to cross. In that sense there is a sort of intellectual parity that could be used as the basis for a reciprocal relationship, albeit one with a major power imbalance as there is with a King Regnant and his Queen Consort.
Okay, I didn’t see that. I concede to the point.
The power they have would be a similar situation to what I proposed, and that power has led to arrogance, since nobody could challenge them; for the Bearer it has the potential to be even worse. And it’s quite difficult to portray somebody as wiser or more intelligent than yourself; to attempt to do it to a large extent would mean that you often can’t do it, since being able to portray that level of intelligence would often require a greater intelligence than you possess. You can’t accurately portray infinite intelligence in media or writing because no person has even the slightest grasp of what it must be like. If I had to take an educated guess, that’s why all of the really, really wise and intelligent characters in media are often considered to be strange or to never make sense, because writers have to go to that extreme to make omniscience believable, and because it would be easy to assume that if somebody was that much cleverer than you, then what they say must not make sense to somebody as intellectually inferior as you, so people would be more willing to fill in the blanks and accept the gibberish that they would spout.
If I had to take another educated guess, that’s also why many people use power and danger when associating it with such things; because it’s easier to use and it’s cleverly interchangeable when done at the right moments because it’s what people expect and assume from those with the power of Gods.
I thought the whole debate was about the Bearer in the first place, and how you go from being a mortal, with a mortal’s mindset, to an immortal with a mortal’s mindset…
hence why I’ve stated multiple times that the Bearer’s mind wouldn’t be able to take the strain.
Whenever I do a playthrough I always chose the option where Lavei’s “mind raced with every thought” after he woke up in chapter 3. I think it would be understandable if Lavei gets a boost in mental capacity after winning the Trials, gaining immortality, and getting the rest of the Essence. After all, they won’t feel the effects of immortality until after a few years or decades.
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That is actually an argument that I’ve mentioned in the past. And many points you have were still in the same principle. Which I thank you for.
That makes me wonder though; if the Bearer dies because they’re unable to take the strain…where is it stated that they would be able to handle it if they become immortal? All we know is they wouldn’t die, but that doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t feel the pain they would feel if they were mortal.
If they don’t die by the time they’re 19 due to the trauma I find it extremely likely that they would have a mental breakdown at a point not-too-far in the future if this is the case.
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Oh a mental breakdown is pretty much guaranteed. Haven’t you seen the stress stat 
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I’m trying to keep that shit on the down-low. Thora is a cool cucumber, she doesn’t do no stressing that everybody’s going to die.
Not cos’ she’s a sociopath, just…she’s a really chill person. The kind that everybody wants to know. And be. Chill about everything unless you go too far astray. Then she’ll pummel you into the ground with Mjølnir and chuckle while everybody looks on in shock. Then she’ll go for ice cream.
…But no mint-chocolate.
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