In this case, the MC can rely on hedonism to stay sane…
MC is Dionysus confirmed. Parties and wines all day, everyday.
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Well, your Bearer. But would your Bearer take the oppertunity to give up their own immortality or not, then?
And all the other Bearers in the different parallel universes may think differently.
Also your right when the other one didn’t die you always can try to relive a relationship, and then break up again, get together again after some thousand years, and so on.
…I haven’t seen FMA:B, thank you 
I’d like to think my MC would be able to accept that life has to end for most people and that, if he should become immortal, he can do more good by not sinking into eternal apathy 
Immortality for the greater good! Paragon-Control ending! Woohoo!
Since @Sammysam brought up the idea of a multiverse, my MC is now obligated to go all
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Yeah, but the whole idea is that even with the strength of will necessary to be an immortal, nobody can handle loss for billions of years. Even the gods take their turns pretending the mortals don’t exist (I have to assume they do, since they don’t actively influence the world except in big fights cough poseidon cough).
It’s just too much to watch everyone you’ve ever been close to die, you know?
And even if you have that one person who’s immortal stay with you, what happens when you break up or fight or get bored of one another’s company?
And don’t get me started on how terrible it would be to make everyone in existence immortal.
A good portion of humankind’s joy is in knowing that life isn’t permanent–to take every moment as the blessing it is.
With that gone…
oy.
I think somebody mentioned that in an older iteration of this conversation, actually. A few weeks, I think?
Obviously my Nyx is the alpha.
actually lol no she isn’t, she’s basically a doormat, being all nice to everyone all the time.
i hate when people don’t like me, and it comes out in games too
in dragon age 2, I got Carver into the friendship bar. That’s how much I enjoy people liking me.
btw, his commentary when he actually likes your mage? adorable.
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…I think I did when I quoted Achilles-Brad Pitt 
And hmm… I guess there is some apathy involved with the immortality bit. It would be easier to live a long time by trying not to form close relationships. I guess my MC would sacrifice his own happiness for others? and maybe that in itself will make him happy? I dunno 
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I made sure Carver hated me in Dragon Age 2 couldn’t stand him 
But wouldn’t following that logic Aeson suffer from the same? How much does MC have to piss him off for him to ignore his own mental health by not just seeking any kind of relationship with them?
Even when it’s just some kind of rivality/begrudingly partnership of convience? MC literally can’t be alone. Because no matter what they suffer Aeson is deep into the shit too.
@RanchoJoe Okay. My MC prepares their knives.
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I agree. Aeson would have a shitty existence too.
We should totally just stab the immortals.
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@ashestoashes018 I suppose we can all just agree to disagree? 
It’s just my personal belief, I guess, that with enough willpower, you can achieve anything. Everything I’m saying probably sounds like I’m reading from a book of cliches, but I do find a bit of truth in all of them. Everything in life has the meaning you give to it.
You say a human life is worth more, and that somehow animals “aren’t sentient.” But I don’t believe that at all. I have three cats and two conures (that can speak!) and they are like my children. I don’t ever believe that you should consider them your property… The whole process is called “adoption” for a reason. They’re becoming part of your family. Perhaps my morality is a bit skewed here, but honestly? If someone gave me the choice between saving (any of) my pet’s life or the life of someone I don’t even know, I would have to save my baby. I’m sorry. There’s that bond. The emotional connection.
When I look into my pets’ eyes, I see life. I see a personality. They aren’t just decorations you can throw away when you decide you don’t want them anymore. They feel pain, mentally and physically. They’re just as important. Something worth protecting because they can’t speak up for themselves. (I also firmly believe that humans were given the responsibility of being guardians of the animals) I realize a lot of people don’t believe that animal lives have value, but it’s kind of my personal goal to make sure it’s widely known that they deserve to. It really does scare me that some people seem to think otherwise.
I mean… riddle me this. If animals really weren’t sentient and able to think for themselves, why do you think so many poor circus animals try to run away the first chance they get?
I would also like to point out there is a gorilla named Koko who can not only speak using sign language, but she also bonded with a kitten with whom she consciously made sure to not crush with her massive strength. That kitten later died in a car accident, and she was fully able to understand the concept of death. She cried. (source) Not only over the kitten, but Robin Williams as well.
Let’s also not forget the African Grey parrot named Alex who was the first animal to actually think of itself existentially. He literally asked his handler, “What color am I?” (source)
(every english essay i’ve ever had to write has been about animals’ rights so i’ll quit before i get emotional)
Anyway, it’s a bit random, but I was wondering if anyone knows their MBTI type? I’m an INFP, which might explain my passionate idealism. It might help us understand everyone else’s takes on immortality and the sanity that could be expected to come with it.
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Or you can throw them into the heart of your own personal black hole, kinda like a new Tartarus! What goes around comes around!
Yet another? I was under the assumption we were having a debate, but if I was offending you personally then I had no knowledge of this. And once again, you bring your argument into this despite the fact that it may be in the minority. You may rescue your animals from a shelter and I wholeheartedly respect you for that, but that’s in the minority; more people are inclined to buy pets than rescue them. Everybody you know might rescue animals, but in a general sense of the world, they are bought. And whether you rescue them or not doesn’t take away from the fact that seen as the same as humans. Whether I believe that or you don’t is irrelevant; that’s what people in a general sense of the world believe so that’s what I’ve chosen to base my argument on.
And with all due respect, you don’t make a compelling argument to me either due to the exact same reason; neither of us are immortal so neither of us can have a true knowledge of what somebody would be like after countless lifetimes of emotional turmoil. At its base, my point was that pain hardens people, so after an infinite amount of pain, it’s just a matter of being directly proportionate. It might be indirectly proportionate, again I don’t know. That’s just what seems most logical to me.
If I’ve offended you at any point then that wasn’t my intention at all. I was having fun with this debate; you’ve given me some interesting points to think about.
And @aweepingdalek I’m a full-blown INTJ-A. What that accounts for in your observations of my arguments, I leave up to you. Make of it what you will.
The knives actually are for all the other versions of MC because if someone would have the idea to fight for dominance (looking at @RanchoJoe here) then well, someone has to stop them…and steal their plan. Because, THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!
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…but how can you stab someone with limitless power to death? Heck, what will happen if two omnipotent beings decide they wanna off each other?
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You can view animals in whatever way you wish. That wasn’t the point of my response to you at all.
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Koko and gorillas, in general, are sentient. (also, I’d be surprised if anyone hasn’t heard of Koko. She’s a sweet animal). There is a difference between being alive and intelligent, and being alive and sentient. Sentience is a sense of self. Animals just…don’t have the sense of “I think, therefore I am.”
So, yes, I value human life over animal life, and it actually concerns me slightly that you don’t. I wouldn’t want to be the person you decided to let die in order to save your pet.
And I am a pet owner. A cavalier (dog) and a holland lop (rabbit). Both were adopted. The cavalier, because his previous owner decided he wasn’t worthy because he was born with an umbilical hernia, the lop adopted because he was the runt. They weren’t fit to be sold. I also advocate adopting.
Doesn’t mean I don’t think human life is worth more. It just is. Animals provide love and comfort. They don’t provide stimulating conversations, advances in science, a workforce, etc. Nothing you can ever say, nor anything you can ever source me, aside from proof that they do ALL of these things, will convince me otherwise. Just having the ability to mimic words is not proof of sentience. It’s proof of intelligence.
ANYWAY I’m getting way off topic here. This definitely isn’t the place for a debate on animal rights, particularly since it has literally nothing to do with the conversation or the game.
My type is ENFJ (though I’m borderline INFJ). I am a very intuitive, emotional person. I intuitively know things about people, based on the way they speak, walk, type, etc. It’s all in body language, etc.
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re: poseidon causing hurricanes in the prologue of CotG
Last I checked I was an INFJ, but I heard that these tests depends on our internal state as well, so the results will vary.
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They destroy each other and a new universe is created. Simple.
@aweepingdalek not MBTI’s biggest fan but INTP.
OH HEY, WE’RE TYPE-BUDDIES. WASSUP, MY HOMIE?
(back when I was in my advanced placement psych class in high school, we only had 2 E/I -NFJs in my class of 35 students. My pscyh teacher said it’s one of the least common typecasts, so it’s really awesome for me every time I meet one :3)
And I think my MC would actually be more of an ENFP.
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We sent a monkey to space to see if humans can survive escape velocity
Civilization would be hella different if humans didn’t learn to tame wolves, develop husbandry, etc
don’t get me wrong, I agree with your point. I don’t think animals are sentient either (that would mean my dog stiff arms me when I try to hug him to spite me). I just want to point out how much animals have helped fulfill the roles you pointed out
PS: I’m an ENFP
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