Children of the Gods (Important poll #12306)

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Finally somebody thinks it as well; I honestly think Aeson’s hero persona is way more pretentious than actually inspiring. As tied in to the MC as he is, I’m honestly hoping for a scene where we can knock him on his ass. I’m not saying he isn’t as tough as he appears to be, but he crossed the line into melodrama long ago.

And are you suggesting using an eternity of pseudo-incest rather than actually finding an eternal partner? Kudos to you if you can pull that off; I think most people would still have a psychological aversion to that, even if there wasn’t a psychical one. That being said, I appreciate the option for a mental breakdown. And for me, the ‘really tall’ option is still only me at a stretch despite my female…ness. Is femaleness a word? It is now, I’m definitely using it. I’m kinda tall; taller than 6ft.

Also, if I had a week I couldn’t list all the reasons why making humanity immortal would be one of the worst ideas in the history of history, but I’ll try to summarise it with one word: Ultra-mega-super-death.

That’s still one word. Hyphens are important.

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Meh, too much work.

But when thinking about it, would the RO being mortal really make them pointless? After all, who says that the MC and their RO not one day realize that choosing a partner for eternity while being only seventeen/eighteen years old may not be that much of a good decision?

You grow, you change and sometimes you grow in a different direction and knowing that the same person you just one day stopped to love will always be there…sounds rather suffocating. And in the end instead of just parting as friends you fall down a rabbit hole of passive aggressive hate, because after all you once wished for nothing more as them being as immortal as you but now you really would like to kill them yourself.

Better let it end when you still like each other. You after all had some good time. That’s a point too…I guess. Happily ever after doesn’t have to be everyone’s endgame.

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Welp, I’m 5’11" on a good day so you’re closer to it than me haha

Not gonna lie, Aeson kinda rubbed me the wrong way with his grand entrance and “adopting all of Olympus” during the ceremony. If my meta-gaming side didn’t demand that the relationship bars be as even to each other as possible, I would have ignored him completely. I would relish a chance to spar Aeson and bring him down a peg.

And hey, if everyone’s immortal and they can’t die if, say, someone accidentally throws a spear at them while they’re making some over the top speech, I think everyone would benefit. The thrower will let some steam off and the receiver would take a hint and shut up :stuck_out_tongue:

@Sammysam I actually agree. I’ll make a terrible judgment call and quote the movie Troy as a source of Greek mythology. Achilles/Brad Pitt said that the gods “envy us. We never know when it will be our last day, which makes everything more special. More beautiful”. I’m simply throwing theories out there =P

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Word, I hope we can bring Aseon down off of his high horse.:muscle::facepunch: I mean we only feel each other pain when death is the reason. Stuff like Punchs and kicks don’t hurt me, if it’s coming his way​:smiling_imp:. So I’m throw so jabs and hope for the best that he doesn’t kick my ass lol.

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He’s not trying to be inspiring to anyone who knows the difference between a true Hero and a for-show Hero; he’s trying to stay alive. Being adored by the civilians and being seen as obedient/useful to the Gods is the most tactful way to do that…at least until it’s time to choose sides.

Someone needs to feed Zeus’s ego.

I often enjoy seeing how people feel toward characters. I remember a time where everyone was calling for Saint’s head and sending out arrest warrants for Calypso. I suppose it’s Aeson’s turn now.

Though funnily enough, Adonis’s reputation seems unscathed. (On the forum…in the Essenverse, not so much.)

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And Haris (sorry, the Chipmunk) is still universally hated…

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I’mma put on my Not-A-Licensed-Psychologist glasses now, okay?

Re:Aeson’s True Hero Persona.

  1. Greek Heroes have always been bigger than life. Super charismatic, super witty, super strong, super sexy.

2)Aeson has literally grown up knowing he is meant to be a Traditional Greek Hero™.

3)Everyone on Olympus looks to him as their salvation from destruction.

4)TGH™s don’t get to say no to the gods.

  1. Aeson’s father cares at least as much, if not more, about the other half of his soul.

All the signs, plus various others I’m too lazy to go searching for, tell me that Aeson has difficulties trusting others, may have self-esteem and self-image issues, and is INCREDIBLY jealous of the Bearer.

The Bearer has lived their life in relative peace. Aeson has known his destiny forever. Be important until you’re 18, then… nothing. You’re the second chair, when you used to have all the solos.

That’s why he’s afraid to take off the Hero mask and be himself around us.

Inferiority complex, possibly, but most likely just trust issues mixed with a severely terrible upbringing.

Right, and the whole self-preservation thing. I sorta touched on that but never blatantly said it, with the whole “can’t say no to the gods” thing.

Am I really the only person who likes Haris? I think they are a very interesting character. I doubt they’re a traitor. More likely a spy for the gods, sent to make sure we’re not doing satanic rituals to summom Cronus or something.

Hence why they jump when Athena’s there… Athena is a questionable variable when it comes to the B’s.

I don’t think Haris is evil at all.

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I appreciate that but part of my point was isn’t there a better way to do that other than displaying yourself as the archetype of a hero? Because @ashestoashes018 is completely right; he’s the hero of Olympus until he’s 18 and then he’s forced into the back seat to make way for the MC. Wasn’t there a better way, or at least a more permanent/less pointless way to be adored and seen as useful without basing your entire persona around something that you know will inevitably be taken away from you?

And technically for me, it was never not Aeson’s turn; he was inevitably going to be unbearably jealous of the MC, but I kind of disliked him from the start. Perhaps if Aeson drops his mask in the future I may be more inclined to be sympathetic to his character, but if all a character is emotionally able to do is present a persona then that character is pretty much guaranteed to immediately lose my respect. That’s how I feel for any character in any media, not just this.

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I’m not sure what you’re referring to.

I didn’t base the character of Aeson out of random; there isn’t another way he can win the Gods favor in this Universe. Everything is set. For example, why not begin questioning why the Gods don’t just kill the Bearer in every life to save themselves the trouble; it’s highly plausible and a very real option instead of going through the entire Trials. But that’s not how it is in my game. Each character has their own set personality, and each personality has been taken into account when creating this game and deciding which actions they’d partake in when considering the larger plot I’m working toward.

If Aeson was any other way (or tried any other method to win over the Gods) the character wouldn’t work, and the end of the game wouldn’t make sense in the grand scheme of things.

I understand what you’re saying in regards to how you feel about the character, and it is one-hundred percent understandable, and I had anticipated it (even hoped for it). Your MC can question this and get their feathers ruffled, but I hope outside the game you’ll soon see why he must take this route.

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I’m referring to the fact that his life is based around him being Olympus’ greatest warrior, and when his 18th birthday rolls around, that’s going to become pointless because he won’t be the greatest warrior in Olympus anymore; the MC will. It’s like if I prized myself on being the smartest person in University even with the knowledge that someone even smarter than me is going to arrive next term. It works for me until that person arrives, then the thing I prized myself on is stripped away from me. I knew that person would arrive, and yet I still chose to base myself around something I knew wouldn’t last.

And I’m not criticising the game or trying to undermine what you’re doing, not at all; I’m just trying to get to the bottom of why Aeson truly acts like he does. [quote=“Rohie, post:4335, topic:15482”]
I understand what you’re saying in regards to how you feel about the character, and it is one-hundred percent understandable, and I had anticipated it (even hoped for it).
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I feel good because of this comment; one of the reasons I’m discussing this is because my main MC is a very truth-driven character. She understands the need for deception but she intensely dislikes it, so it’s likely that she’ll dislike Aeson as a person until he learns to open up and share.

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Honestly, I adore Aeson. (I know I say it a lot, but my affection is so great that it bears repeating)

At first, I was extremely put-off by the whole drama caused by his arrival on Olympus. And his ridiculous “heroic” speech.
And then there was the Hospital scene. Like a breach in the armor. You get to see the dry humor, the more cynical part of his personality. And the fact that he doesn’t trust the gods anymore than you do.

I know that some people don’t like the fact that everyone around Olympus seems to adore him, while they fear our MC. They think he is being a sycophant to the gods. Or the fact that Hades is his father.

But honestly, I don’t think that either of the bearer or the bestower is the luckiest one. They both had pretty shitty childhood. They both have to bend over and play the games of the Gods to remain alive. And they both most likely get stabbed in the back at some point.

Well, unlike Saint or Calypso,he didn’t attack us, and force us to get to Olympus. And unlike Aeson, there is no direct competition between us. So, i guess there is less reasons to be pissed at him, or jealous. Actually one could be jealous of his pretty face.
Does that mean he has a bad reputation on Olympus? Does it have anything to do with the fact that he is a little bit of a flirt?

Nope, I am fine with Haris as well. I don’t think s/he is a bad person.
Possibly, a unknowing spy. But that’s about it. Also I kind of pity her/him. For all she/he knows, we are a murderous monster.

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What i think @Rohie’s getting at is that Aeson would not be in an even moderately-free position were he not mindful of the gods. He’d be undee more scrutiny than the Bearer is, since my understanding of his ability to use magic is that he is currently more powerful than thr MC.

He would be locked away, unable to get any information, and not have the chance at freedom.

No… his only option was to play the long con.

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Of course he’s more powerful than the MC; he’s spent his entire life on Olympus learning to be a warrior unsurpassed by anyone but the eventual MC.

And in regards to the con…I know that. And you know that. And @Rohie knows that. And Aeson himself knows that. But part of my point was that my MC doesn’t. Until he learns to open up and show who he really is, my MC will most likely distrust him rather deeply and wonder why he’s so hellbent on playing the eponymous hero in every aspect of his life.

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@Rohie so does mean we can have a little fight with Aeson. And if Rain gets beat up by Aeson will anybody know that I got beat up by him, I mean😱 can we keep it hush😉.

Plus since Saint our brother if we have a cool relationship with him or so can we go " yo bro can you stop cock blocking me , I let you have all the chocolate fountain and whatever you want, when I get the essence". Plus if we can go on a date and you go with Calypso will Saint be the third wheel, messing up stuff whenever we try to make s move lol.

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By the way, if I remember right, a couple of thousand posts ago, @Rohie mentionned that it would be impossible to manipulate and lie to Aeson, unlike other people. Is it liked to the whole Essence Soul Business, or is he just really perceptive?

Because, if it is linked to the nature of our souls, perhaps our character will have a deeper view of who Aeson is, even if he keeps the appearances around us at first. Otherwise, forget I said anything!

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Presuming you survive until your 18 and gain control over the essence everything in the game says your main character now has more cosmic mojo than the rest of the Greek Pantheon or Cronus. At which point the whole granting of immortality or creating new gods thing ought to be easy peasy. You really don’t have to worry about your RO dying assuming you stop the whole end of the world thing.

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Would are MC get to interact w/ the main villain of the story if so would we get to join him, or at least lie and stab him n the rest of the gods(ess) and control or recreate the world

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You are forgetting that You will ended being MASTER OF UNIVERSE. You could make your lover immortal or transformed into a small hairy potato dog whom launch fireworks from their eyes. Whatever you want if you survive and for eternity.

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LOL Zeus has banged half of Olympus, including half of zoo. And half of Demigod demographic came from him, and He probably had banged the human parent because is Zeus and we know how Zeus work. But really all gods except Hera and Artemis are that way. He is Afrodite child everyone expect from him being a flirting hear break guy.

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But that’s kind of the problem; it’s all well and good that the MC wants to be with them for the rest of eternity, but what if the RO doesn’t want to be immortal? That attitude of ‘I can do anything because I’m omnipotent’ would cause quite a few relationship problems, I’m sure; one such problem may even revolve around the potential immortality that the RO could want.

I mean, I understand that they wouldn’t compete in the trials if they didn’t want immortality but immortal or not, being in a relationship with somebody who has the power to shape the universe would have more than their fair share of problems, is all I’m saying.