It is essentially the right term; most everything has to be in absolutes because if something isn’t fully determined there’s no way to know if it’s right, and being right and knowledgable is king.
And I come off as cold to practically everyone I meet as well; it’s a staple of my personality. But what you and everybody else calls cold, I call the ability to make decisions where it is needed; even if I want something more than anything else in the world, that doesn’t mean that it’s right. To make an irrational decision to us is literally the worst thing you can do; rational thought is what makes us intelligent, which makes us the brilliant creatures we are today. The affinity for being completely rational and basing our lives around it is why INTJ’s have the highest collective IQ’s of any personality type. That’s not me bragging, that’s proven. Although it is me bragging a bit.
And I love being evil in games for that reason; I’m able to divorce myself from the feelings because it’s just a game and had no real-life consequences. For me, that can be the be all and end all. I need nothing more while you still have the morality nagging at the back of your head. It’s quite useful, I will admit.
@ashestoashes018 I’ve just read your post and that must be a similar problem for you as well. You have to imagine child-molesters and murderers and only then can you kill the NPC’s, but all I have to do is think ‘I need to kill him to progress further. Therefore, he must die’. That’s literally all the rationale I ever need in any game. Because it’s logic.
@RanchoJoe Thanks! Also @Rohie if you need a beta tester I can help with that. The only thing being that as I am beta testing more than one game I don’t know how quickly it would get done. All I would have to know is which path you would like me to play.
Thank you for the offers. I went by who inquired first, (@Sherlock221B, @RanchoJoe, @ashestoashes018 and @Nyxerie). I’ll message the beta testers with more information at a later time. Thanks again!
Also, I took the quiz, and it turns out I am an ENFP. Too preoccupied to analyze, but it seems accurate enough.
this is easily one of the most fantastic WIPs I’ve ever seen. You totally have a future as an author or game-maker. I could see you being the next David Gaider (hnng, his storylines are what i live for tbh)
I don’t think that was the intent, but it struck me as very harshly worded, as did some of your other points in that response. [/quote]
I don’t see what was so harsh about my paragraph above.
Perhaps we live in very different places, because I quite frankly know plenty.
I’d argue that they often do contribute. I used to have to call the exterminator every year to get rid of centipedes, and every 2 or 3 years to get rid of the occasional mouse that somehow found its way inside. My little Missy keeps my home rodent and centipede free and saves me the effort of having to remove the spider webs that appear in out of the way corners. If a mosquito or wasp gets into the house, she’ll draw my attention to it before it can bite or sting anyone.
As a friend of mine who strongly prefers animals over people has said to me repeatedly, “pets don’t backstab you”. I’m sorry if you find this disburbing, but not everybody feels the same way as you on this.
I totally understand where you’re coming from and I know a lot of people who feel similarly.
There are animals that are longer lived than humans, whales and giant tortoises, for example, and jellyfish are functionally immortal. As for sentience, it seems pretty clear to me that all of my pets have been self-aware and capable of feeling, so I have to disagree with you that only humans are sentient.
I think eunni is a bigger issue for an immortal than pain. Nevertheless for an immortal Bearer at least, the issue of loss is surmountable. Just make someone you care about deeply immortal too. Problem solved
[quote]No…unless the Bearer falls in love with (and has that love reciprocated by) Aeson or a god(dess), they will inevitably lose sight of what real, lasting relationships are.
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The Bearer has the ability to make people immortal. So there are literally billions of options when it comes to relationships…
I was under the impression we were talking about a hypothetical immortal in a general sense rather than someone with eternal power. I was approaching it as if this person was immortal, but that was it for them, which is why I took such an approach. This clarifies some things. [quote=“P_Tigras, post:4532, topic:15482”]
I know the word has a certain emotional resonance, but logically speaking, I’m not sure what it means to treat someone as human. Humans have been mistreating each other since the beginning of history and continue to do so.
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That’s actually an interesting point, but what I think @ashestoashes018 was pointing out was that people are much more willing to treat humans with equality in regards to animals. Civilisation and attitudes towards animals have changed, but in a modern society, people would be inclined to treat a human as they would like to be treated, but not treat the animal that way because an animal isn’t capable of comprehending such ideals. For example, if a human killed somebody they would go to court and have a trial because that would be considered fair, but no such action would be taken if an animal acted the same way. The way the Gorilla recently on the news was treated that you mentioned is a good example.
Okay that went way more off topic than I expected, but in a purely strict sense, I think @ashestoashes018 was suggesting that you cannot continue to treat somebody like an equal when you’re a billion years old and have infinite power. That would not only be illogical but insane. There’s such an imbalance of power that it would virtually be like arguing that ants have the same intellectual capacity as humans. The idea is that treating somebody with respect and dignity and respecting every aspect of their life when you could snuff out any irritating qualities of theirs in an instant is much easier said than done.
It’s been pretty much agreed upon that since the MC and Aeson’s life forces are intertwined, then it’s extremely likely that if one becomes immortal, the other will too. And vice versa for the mortality aspect as well.
Then we will have to kill at least three other people and hope that at least one other person gets a heart attack. And they are too old to be Romeo/Juliet.
The Bestower and the Bearer really should have meet earlier for that scenario.
That’s actually an interesting point, but what I think @ashestoashes018 was pointing out was that people are much more willing to treat humans with equality in regards to animals. Civilisation and attitudes towards animals have changed, but in a modern society, people would be inclined to treat a human as they would like to be treated, but not treat the animal that way because an animal isn’t capable of comprehending such ideals. For example, if a human killed somebody they would go to court and have a trial because that would be considered fair, but no such action would be taken if an animal acted the same way. The way the Gorilla recently on the news was treated that you mentioned is a good example.[/quote]
I don’t have an issue with any of this. Nevertheless, 30 years ago, there’d have been no real backlash to the gorilla being shot and killed to remove all risk to the child. Today there is. There has been a shift in cultural values, and that shift is continuing.
True. I entirely agree with what you’ve said here with the caveat that you’ve developed far greater intellectual capacity over that billion years. When I read tales of the Olympian gods and goddesses however, they don’t seem any more intelligent or wiser than ordinary humans, just more powerful and more dangerous to cross. In that sense there is a sort of intellectual parity that could be used as the basis for a reciprocal relationship, albeit one with a major power imbalance as there is with a King Regnant and his Queen Consort.