I’m pretty sure Mouse will stick with the MC (regardless of gender)… unless the player somehow gets Mouse to hate them… but I don’t see that ever happening… gee, I hope I didn’t just jinx it… 
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ALMOST HEAAAAAVEEEENNNN, WEST VIRGINIAAAAAAAAAAAA
BLUE RIDGE MOUNTAINS, SHENANDOAH RIVERRRR
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That’s the game doing it’s thing. I wrote down every single possible outcome that could’ve happened. You can shoot him without having to unload your entire magazine through the door. You could possibly have run out of ammo entirely when you go to reload, and just walked up to him and knocked him out with a punch. Sometimes that punch isn’t powerful enough so you have you smack him across the face a couple of times.
There was so many possibilities, so many different outcomes
Gabriel never actually uses the term “Lucifer”. But basically, it’s the boss or main leader of an organization that is working against The Archangels.
Mouse will stick to you no matter what. Even if you don’t tell her that you were an FBI informant, they’d still stick to you.
They have their reasons… you’ll find out why when i soon finish Mouse’s hangouts.
Not necessarily…
For Raquel, get her to pull her attention from Gabriel. She’ll eventually lose hope and turn to you. All you need to do is get shot up, and spend time with her and respect her silence.
… No comment.
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Tsk tsk tsk tsk, I don’t know how I feel about playing second fiddle. Luckily mouse is our Raquel. So I’ll stay with her for my first playthrough.
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Alright, so picture this…
Summary
Someday, when Raquel is at apartment. Yeah insert that one line about the shelf.
MC and Raquel are in car alone, for whatever reason.
Raquel turns to MC and says something along the lines of “I love you” Just like that. Like, her first words to MC.
BEWARE ACTUAL MAJOR SPOILERS HERE
Oh, and any romance is somewhat heartbreaking if players choose undercover route. Because, even if the RO finds out, they stay with MC and die. Right? IDK, I’ve only tested Hayne and Mouse.
Will we see Gabriel unknowingly reject Raquel at some point??
What else…
I can actually imagine Raquel doing this: 
Or… hmmm… idk. Not too creative, myself.
Oof I now see why I abandoned writing. To be honest, getting dialogue right is a rather daunting task in my eyes. I’m far better suited for reading and analyzing.
tbh I’ve been so preoccupied with proofreading that I haven’t actually played the game as a game and more like as a thing to proofread. Maybe I’ll do that tonight, on my night off. So, when this post goes up, I’ve actually been here for about 2 hours, give or take. Anyways, this is just a record of my thoughts as I discover things.
And so, without further ado, here are my…
CRITIQUES
And questions.
Summary
Will Hosted allow the use of pictures? I mean, I’ve seen them before, but wouldn’t size limits affect the amount of pictures in-game? Or does Hosted have a policy?
Will there be any Payday 2 easter eggs? Does Chains count? Can we buy an unreliable drill?
Some paragraphs end with a comma. If that is indeed coded in, then disregard this point.
The whole time post-VAM raid, something felt rushed (the rook scene?) Maybe it was just me, as I haven’t played past that point in a while.
The mere fact that the Ultra Knife exists is in question.
Rook being… well Rook.
“smooth”?
Con Man MC stuttering up a storm over here.
I understand that the story is about wrapped up, but here’s an idea for the future. Fallen Angels. As pointed out earlier in this thread, Fallen are given names, like Lucifer, are disliked. But what if they betrayed the Archangels? Sold them out, joined the Outfit, etc? Or they formed their own group?
Fun tidbit on the doughnut stereotype. Apparently, there was a time when doughnut shops were some of the rare businesses open late at night. Naturally, cops ended up giving these places a lot of business, as they too were out late. IDK as to the validity of this, just read it somewhere.
Can we pick/be given an alias? I mean, Raphael is cool, but I do wonder if it’s needed in the stat menu if we just go by Raphael or (playername) Jones.
MORE
DIALOGUE
OPTIONS
PLEASE
Yeah, I do like me some dialogue options. Maybe like 1 or 2 more here and there would probably be good.
So… How exactly did the Corigan (idk if that’s correct spelling) find out we were FBI? And weren’t our records erased twice? Once when going under, and again whenever we joined the Archangels?
And why, exactly, won’t House die if we’re FBI?
What British accent does Mouse have? I’m not from that neck of the woods (American Midwest ftw), but I do believe that there are a multitude of accents from the English southern portion alone. Then there’s the Scottish north. idk, someone from Britain help me.
Riiiiight. So the safehouse is… gah, nevermind.
Right. Evelin. Hah, nvm. I had thought it was a gender naming error. But, why not write Ave? And how does one get Evlin from Avelyne? It may just be how I’m hearing it mentally.
…what? Who in the name of all that is good puts an empty container back where it was?
take? We literally just put it back where it was.
ALMOST HEAVEN, WEST VIRGINIA
May just be a difficulty thing (I don’t even know what the default was or what it was the last time I played), but our take was 4500 minus what mouse took?
So… Shouldn’t this be July fifth? And a note on 4th celebrations. Given the location coughtexascoughtheentiresouthcough, people do anything in even the given week before the fourth. When I lived down south, some guys from my town were literally shooting into the sky as a celebration… They were drunk, though.
YES THE RAQUEL PATH HAS AN ACHIEVEMENT
Oh god… The achievement names…
THICC BELGIAN WAFFLE?!?!
I’m doing my part!
Damn, I loved that sniper duel with Bishop. I like that gun. That’s a hot gun. I want one. Damn you, @MichaelMaxwell! I’m a broke student! I have to pray just to get 5$!
So, my recommendations for guns and the like:
Alright, what else…
Yeah, nothing. I’ll be here all night. I really have nothing better to do. Maybe I’ll reactivate an old wip…
Yeah. hmu if you need anything.
Ah, I realize that halfway through, my ADHD meds lost effect. huh. Sorry, as I become rather chatty when this happens.
Addendum:
My guess is Raquel realizes that pursuing Gabriel is a lost cause.
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They should as it’s simply “senior”, but not understanding how to use them. Heck, Dopeness isn’t even in any of the Japanese’ either pop or traditional culture related communities.
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Writing is hard, especially when you’ve poured out all of your creative juices earlier in the story and you have nothing else in your mind to write about.
Which is why this game takes so long to write…
Raquel’s first words won’t be that, since I have plans for that later. But I do have a few ideas.
She likes to do that. Yes.
Puts my hand out to rook
Rook: *Cracks Michael's knuckles for him*
Upon further discussion with Ben I soon realized that we will not be able to use the many pictures for Gregory’s Glorious Good’s product in the game’s release (Apart from the VAMcorp weapons) due to copyright reasons.
I’m still waiting to finish the game before I find out whether or not I can keep the chapter images or not.
There is a LOT of Payday 2 easter eggs… like, serious loads. (hint) Check the achievements.
Some are, some aren’t.
This is because Rook and Bishop thought this’d be an easy job and wanted to end things as fast as possible. After realizing Gabriel was the deadliest person alive, Rook knew he couldn’t do shit and had to either bolt it, or possibly join Gabriel.
Do not question it.
… Which part are you talking about exactly? 
Anything can happen, anything can be.
Hey, at least you didn’t pee your pants.
There are no traitors left alive in the Archangels. (Except for the MC).
Gabriel and his sister are very keen on being very selective when it comes to recruiting their members. (With Gabriel’s recruitment much more strict than his sister’s) And whenever someone ends up betraying the Archangels, the consequences are them becoming top priority to neutralize.
In the original chapter in Canada, that would mean a very quick and violent death.
But here, Gabriel has much more important stuff to do.
Facts!
Unfortunately, no. Raphael is your rank. Like the original Beta Crew, you do not have any aliases until you finish taking over the city. And by then, all of your crew member will each have their own personal aliases.
I need speciffics! Tell me where you need them! And if possible, what options do you want me to give!
Yes, I know it’s my job to find them, but honestly, sometimes I just run out of tea…
They don’t need records for that, and they don’t have records for that. Like Gabriel, the Corigan herself have many contacts. But unlike Gabriel, she has many, many, powerful people in her pockets…
Because I was lazy, but i’ve gotten over it and now House can die even if you are the FBI.
Mouse has a very weak RP masking over a london accent with a hint of a sussex background.
Anna has a very west country accent with hints of a Welsh background.
While Charlie has a perked up and quick london accent with hints of cockney and Welsh background. (My accent~)
This depends on the difficulty. Also, this doesn’t count your total take. This counts of the total amount of money you have (Which you already have some money even before that job)
Should it? @Fonex
Yeah… guess who’s that for.
The McMillan Tac-338? Yeah. It shredded Gabriel’s body armour like hot lead through butter…
As for the gun recommendation, we already have the Maxim 9, and the Suomi won’t be in the game. But the PPSH will be. It’ll give the Kriss Vector a run for it’s money in terms of fire rate.
It’s alright. I prefer chatty over the usual silence of this forum
It is… but if you don’t romance either of them, and help Raquel to get Gabriel to notice her, there’s a chance the two might get together 
.
… I completely regret asking you to call me that.
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Just curios, what is the point of the “damage” stat? Does it actually do anything? Most people I shoot die regardless of the gun i
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Depends on the region of the country, as well as the people in that region, and even the specific parts of the city you’re in. So basically “anything can happen, anything can be”
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We can fix that.
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Because most Outfit soldiers don’t use body armour. You’ll see the difference between using pistol calibers in SMGs and rifle calibers in rifles when fighting against VAMcorp personell. If you have anything bigger than a 7.62x39, the VAMcorp guards are pretty much dead instead of incapacitated. Or perhaps you just shot them in the head. In which case ,their Armour did absolutely nothing.
This also means that if you have a powerful enough caliber, you can shoot straight through a ballistic shield. Like the one you see in the docks warehouse escape in chapter 4
Okay, what about Manhattan, New York City?
With your help, we sure can!
That’s the one. Silent Mr Candlewick ftw.
Reminds me of 'The Wild West lol
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That could be a rather comical critical failure.
Why… WHY WOULD THEY REQUIRE THEM TO BE REMOVED???
As stated here before, someone wanted to be a sarcastic character in the station. I would’ve liked the option to “roast” people. Literally and figuratively.
What exactly is a Corigan?
twitch
Is that… IS THAT A COMMIE GUN??
Yeah. Let’s wipe 554555556 from our minds…
Random thought… are the archangel founders catholic? And why are the operators named after the actual biblical archangels?
I guess what I mean to ask is: How was the name “Archangels” decided, as well as their codenames?
So… Did House blow our cover that night? I understand that we would’ve been made anyway…
The combat applications of that relationship are terrifying. Would Raquel use the kitty claws, then?
Can we get a gun that literally goes “pew”?
Like as a meme of sorts?
I think I’ve mentioned this before, but can you add a modified nerf gun?
Or a .500 overkill rifle?
Or this? The Anzio 20mm?
Or, this weapon of mass destruction?
Will the military or a PMC be involved in the games (not VAM)?
Can I get a katana? Or a tanto (nvm I now see it is already in-game)? Or a saber?
Maybe add a glorious vehicle. It’ll be modified with gunports and some armor. Call it: The “Battle Bus”…
…
…I’ll show myself out.
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New York City, I think at least, would have a ton of fireworks, the day and night of the 3rd and the 4th and maybe the morning of the 5th
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Because copyright…
Very well, we’ll put that in one the list of rework we have for chapter 1.
A Corigan is like a CEO, the head of the a region in which VAMcorp has 3 different subsidiaries:
-VAM Security Insurance
-VAM Global Mining
-VAM Finance
There’s a total of 8 Corigans and their respective regions (2 for each continent):
North American Corigan - NAC : Who we currently know as Aishya
South American Corigan - SAC
Western European Corigan - WEC
Eastern European Corigan - EEC
North African Corigan - NAFC
South African Corigan - SAFC
East Asian Corigan - EAC
West Asian Corigan - WAC
Together, all 8 form the Corigan Council in which all 8 decide on what to do for the better of VAMcorp. While each Corigan have their own board of directors, the Corigans themselves have a board of Corigans that actually answer to their respective shareholders. (Some shareholders have stakes in multiple regions at the same time)
Oh god no.
This is due to the first ever Archangel’s name. Gabriel’s sister, whose name I cannot reveal. But is now somewhat obvious.
From there, the first Gabriel set out and recruited others using other names of the seven archangels as a codename at first, before everything blew into a huge criminal organization spanning the entirety of east Canada.
Everything else just fell into place…
Long story short, it blew your cover for Michael.
No, she’d use any weapon perfect for the given situation…
Though she does favours shotguns to the face.
… Why not?
You’ve mentioned this, and yes, it’s already in the game.
… Very impractical when it comes to robbing stores and banks with.
I’ve already gone very impractical with the Barret .50, but that’s just a bit too much.
The Kolibri on the other hand… yeah, why not. I’ll add it as one of the classic weapons.
in this game? No. in the next game? Possibly.
I already have this idea for the next game…
@HojiroShark you have a real competition here…
The 4th it is then!
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Yeah, Dopeness draws like that too. Probably a stickman karma scene in one hour.
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Very funny.
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Maybe a critical agility failure where your shoe becomes untied and you trip.
Or a critical failure where the player’s gun jams
Or add one for sneaking where the player sneezes
Or one where you go to throw something to disable someone and it misses by a mile
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Perhaps in the “very hard” difficulty.
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